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Well, Fermi Paradox discussions usually end with ???? Isaac Send a noteboard - 29/09/2011 07:51:59 PM
We've had a fair number of chats about this on the site before, actually Joel and I talked about the whole lack of fossil fuels option about a month ago, and it pretty much ends on the same thought as it has for decades now. See, we've refined and solidified a lot of data but we've known for a long time that there were billions of star sin our galaxy, billions of galaxies, and that G type stars (which are not the only candidates for intelligent life) would doubtless numbers at least millions in our own galaxy with at least 1% surely having planets and surely at least 1 in 10 having Earth-ish-sized planets in the 'goldilocks zone' with water on them. So we couldn't imagine how there'd be anything less than at least 1000 Earth-ish worlds just in our galaxy, on the extremely low, low end, with millions or even billions of them quite probably, and billions times that in the Observable Universe close enough that life could have formed and got a signal off just in case we were a freak galaxy or something.

And yet, Great Big Silence, I pretty much fall into the camp that assumes Occam's Razor slices us to "Advanced Technological Life is absurdly rare compared to life" and that even multi-cellular life is probable pretty uncommon.
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An interesting thought I had that may be worth discussion. - 29/09/2011 07:22:01 PM 744 Views
Well, Fermi Paradox discussions usually end with ???? - 29/09/2011 07:51:59 PM 423 Views
you do have to hope there's intelligent life somewhere out there - 29/09/2011 07:56:48 PM 479 Views
I definitely agree with the first part. - 29/09/2011 08:32:33 PM 574 Views
why do you think only those options would be available? - 29/09/2011 08:35:53 PM 426 Views
Could be cultural domination. - 29/09/2011 09:32:18 PM 442 Views
*shrug* Humans aren't that bad - 29/09/2011 09:51:32 PM 412 Views
Oh yes we are. - 29/09/2011 10:27:52 PM 433 Views
Unless their advancement is so great they are VERY ethically enlightened, her fears seem valid. - 30/09/2011 03:04:40 AM 489 Views
hmmm - 30/09/2011 02:34:47 PM 422 Views
"And hey. I'll eat most anything once." - 30/09/2011 07:22:01 PM 401 Views
I think I've met a few aliens... - 30/09/2011 01:31:55 AM 432 Views
Why do fossil fuels have to be involved? - 29/09/2011 08:33:26 PM 405 Views
Going into the fossil fuel vs wood thing - 29/09/2011 08:51:07 PM 501 Views
The big issue is energy density, IMHO. - 30/09/2011 02:53:39 AM 511 Views
That's so perfect. - 30/09/2011 06:43:31 AM 452 Views
We really have no idea how rare advance technologies societies are - 30/09/2011 02:00:56 PM 552 Views
That's a really good point. - 30/09/2011 04:34:28 PM 465 Views
The doomsdays options don't really hold up well though - 30/09/2011 05:22:57 PM 478 Views
I think we have different interpretations of "silence" - 30/09/2011 07:47:32 PM 579 Views
It kind of comes down to whether FTL is possible - 30/09/2011 09:12:32 PM 544 Views
hmmm - 30/09/2011 07:51:42 PM 336 Views
Yeah but that's just a variant of "Highly advanced aliens who for some reason are totally stupid" - 30/09/2011 10:21:34 PM 557 Views
I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us - 01/10/2011 01:07:02 AM 502 Views
Re: I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us - 01/10/2011 02:50:42 AM 500 Views
thanks for the detailed answer - 01/10/2011 03:08:48 PM 489 Views
No prob, hopefully it's not all inaccurate nonsense - 01/10/2011 03:18:05 PM 526 Views
not to mention that the universe is HUGE - 30/09/2011 07:53:33 PM 414 Views
True - 30/09/2011 10:37:58 PM 378 Views
of course I can't say, that was my point - 30/09/2011 07:42:55 PM 428 Views
I was totally agreeing with you until I wasn't. - 30/09/2011 08:09:08 PM 561 Views
That's pessimistic, though. The "blaze of glory" is ongoing. - 01/10/2011 04:25:28 AM 406 Views
another thing for consideration - 01/10/2011 11:55:12 AM 412 Views

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