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I was sans internet after the 1st. Joel Send a noteboard - 12/09/2011 10:32:55 PM
And in their case it often tends not to be rhetoric, I'm moderately indifferent though I am a bit curious to see if anyone will call him out on it who previously threw a fit about violent rhetoric.

And didn't hear about it until trzaskas thread here, but it's every bit as bad as the rhetoric in which Perry and Palin have indulged (in fact, I think it's probably worse). As I said of them and reiterated to Tash now, in the current tense climate we can't afford to go around casting our political conflicts as "wars" in which our supporters are "armies" who must "take out" opponents, then excuse it by simply tacking on "peacefullyofcourse" as an afterthought. Desperate angry zealots do enough deadly things without political leaders actively inciting them; anyone who does that deliberately lacks the decency to lead and anyone who does so thoughtlessly lacks the judgement.

EDIT: And just to be clear, I'd fully support prosecuting Hoffa for reckless endangerment in response to his comments, just as I would Perry in response to his comments about Bernanke etc. etc. It's vitally important that inciting violence is tolerated no more in those with whom we share political goals than in those we oppose; it MUST be unacceptable in EVERYONE.
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