I think that fundamentally, most people on the right were anti-communists more than they were pro-fascists or pro-dictators. When the threat of global communism receded after the 1989-1991 collapse of most communist regimes, the need to support "bad guys" as a bulwark against "worse guys" went away. As a result, with the exception of actual, real, unrepentant Nazis or neo-Nazis, the right has withdrawn its support for most dictators, and the few dictators who have been supported are in the Middle East, where the existential threat of communism has been replaced by a threat of international jihad. Of course, the support of the likes of Mubarak was bi-partisan in the US, supported broadly on both sides in Europe and premised on a very low level of background violence.
The left, however, doesn't feel like a threat has gone away. They are obviously afraid of American power and/or against the free market system, and so they are still prone to gravitate towards allies in what they see as an existential threat to their utopian ideals.
It's not that the right wouldn't support dictators in the right (or perhaps better to say wrong) circumstances. It's just that the right feels less paranoid and threatened right now.
The left, however, doesn't feel like a threat has gone away. They are obviously afraid of American power and/or against the free market system, and so they are still prone to gravitate towards allies in what they see as an existential threat to their utopian ideals.
It's not that the right wouldn't support dictators in the right (or perhaps better to say wrong) circumstances. It's just that the right feels less paranoid and threatened right now.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Why does the Left support dictators?
01/09/2011 02:37:25 AM
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Do you have anyone besides those two?
01/09/2011 02:52:19 AM
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Well, he also mentioned Michael Moore
01/09/2011 04:34:03 AM
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I ususally do not respond to threads like this, for many threads like this are done by unreasonable
01/09/2011 12:21:10 PM
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I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left.
01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM
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I would agree currently that is true (if you are talking fringe left vs fringe right)
01/09/2011 03:59:45 PM
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As I mentioned in my reply to Legolas, 40 or 50 years ago it was mutual hypocrisy.
01/09/2011 08:01:23 PM
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don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich
01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM
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"the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich" LOL thats funny *NM*
01/09/2011 01:19:12 PM
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Tom, leave the absurdist and patently false dichotomies to trzaska. *NM*
01/09/2011 11:43:35 AM
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Because there aren't any good right wing oppressive regimes for the Right to get behind these days?
01/09/2011 12:53:32 PM
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You should read Postwar. If you haven't already.
01/09/2011 06:18:55 PM
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No, there is at least one more explanation
01/09/2011 07:05:11 PM
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Yes, anti-Americanism is a very significant part of the equation. *NM*
01/09/2011 08:02:05 PM
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Outside America, yes, definitely. He seemed to be talking about inside the US though.
01/09/2011 08:26:27 PM
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well anti-Americanism runs about as strong in the American left as it does in European left *NM*
01/09/2011 08:51:34 PM
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I was using US examples but not trying to limit myself to the US.
01/09/2011 09:57:57 PM
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I wanted to keep things confined to the present day.
01/09/2011 07:58:15 PM
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Hmm
01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM
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I disagree on the last point, and here's why:
01/09/2011 09:54:52 PM
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when you combine that with America's pro-British stance it explains why the Brits seem conflicted *NM*
01/09/2011 07:51:41 PM
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America has a pro-British stance? I'm thinking that'd be news to most Brits. *NM*
01/09/2011 08:27:33 PM
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Well like most things the Brits think they know about the US they would be wrong
01/09/2011 08:48:47 PM
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Or they just see things differently.
01/09/2011 10:15:20 PM
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But the Brits do need us, and we don't need them.
02/09/2011 06:01:10 PM
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Of course it's obvious. That doesn't mean they have to like it, or can't resent it. *NM*
02/09/2011 06:14:37 PM
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
02/09/2011 01:25:40 AM
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I think your historical argument is flawed
02/09/2011 05:57:00 PM
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Apologies, I was sure I responded to this when you first posted the thread.
07/10/2011 05:55:27 AM
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