In between blaming Obama for the London riots they've been out telling anyone who'll listen that THEY aren't to blame for S&P cutting the US credit rating (and never mind what S&P itself says to the contrary).
So, you are blaming a small group of people whose premise and philosophy is "Stop Spending Money, Don't raise taxes." The problem isn't that these people stopped any bill that might have prevented a downgrade. The problem is the people who created the problem in the first place. Namely Republicans and Democrats, the established Oligarchy in which the only difference between the two sides is WHERE to the spend the money. S&P would have down graded us any ways because the Democrats and Republicans have proven TIME AFTER TIME that they cannot be trusted with a budget.
But the Tea party is a convenient scapegoat for people who listen/read either of the party lines.
Isaac was kind enough to link it recently and, as he noted at the time, it's not very long at all. S&P would not have downgraded us if we'd made the $4 trillion worth of debt reduction they stated as their requirement to prevent that downgrade, and repeatedly referred to the uncertainty now existent in our government as the principal reason for the downgrade even after a (smaller than $4 trillion) was reached. If that's not explicit enough, an S&P senior director publicly stated last week that their fears were that "people in the political arena were even talking about a potential default.... That a country even has such voices, albeit a minority, is something notable. This kind of rhetoric is not common amongst AAA sovereigns".
My other thread ought to make clear how I feel about third parties and alienation, but the latter is misdirected in most of the Tea Party (which won't be an example of the former as long as they keep hijacking GOP primaries to oust party moderates). As to our credit downgrade, you have every right to dispute S&P made it because of the Tea Party, but if you do you're arguing with S&P, not me.
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London Riots: American Far Right Pundits Indulge in the Blood Libel of Which They Accuse Others.
16/08/2011 05:03:40 PM
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Joel, stop posting these threads.
16/08/2011 05:50:15 PM
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That's the plan.
16/08/2011 06:09:53 PM
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It can only be called a plan if you ever, honestly plan on following through with it.
16/08/2011 06:52:32 PM
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Oh, I fully intend to follow through with it.
16/08/2011 06:58:05 PM
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Posting more political threads then anyone else on the board is not 'a few slips' *NM*
16/08/2011 07:28:14 PM
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so are you really to dumb to actually understand what they are saying?
16/08/2011 05:53:35 PM
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I understood them perfectly, thanks.
16/08/2011 06:16:31 PM
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so you are not stupid just disingenuous? *NM*
16/08/2011 06:17:50 PM
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The distinction between "he caused it there" and "he WILL cause it here" is practically nonexistent.
16/08/2011 07:01:03 PM
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Joel just continue to admit you are full of shit and defend your BS at the same time *NM*
16/08/2011 07:16:20 PM
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Again, the difference between "s/he WILL cause this" and "s/he DID cause" is merely tense.
16/08/2011 08:04:55 PM
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Good lord. Why do you give people like this the time of day?
16/08/2011 06:00:50 PM
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Because they have 60 of the 435 seats in the US House. (EDIT)
16/08/2011 06:27:21 PM
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No Joel you are simply an idiot
16/08/2011 06:34:42 PM
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You DO realize Hannity made his comments during an interview with Senator Rand Paul, right?
16/08/2011 06:53:28 PM
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The sad part is I have begun to suspect you believe the BS even when you know it is BS
16/08/2011 07:21:36 PM
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I wasn't aware of Reid making that comment to students, and agree it was disrespectful.
16/08/2011 08:08:53 PM
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You know, you lost all credit with this statement.
16/08/2011 07:37:31 PM
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Read S&Ps statement.
16/08/2011 07:53:17 PM
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Even your quotes in this post ought to make it clear that it was because of...
16/08/2011 08:26:13 PM
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You seem kinda hypocritical when complaining about people doing what you do all the time
16/08/2011 06:25:50 PM
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The only people on the right whom I've called terrorists are terrorists.
16/08/2011 06:40:48 PM
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Joel, do you really not believe you use inflammatory rhetoric? *NM*
16/08/2011 07:26:37 PM
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Emotional, yes, but I try hard to avoid anything that could even LOOSELY SUGGEST violence.
16/08/2011 07:36:36 PM
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Well try harder, or at least stop complaining about other people doing what you do non-stop
16/08/2011 08:13:05 PM
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All linking accomplishes is feeding the Troll.
16/08/2011 06:50:43 PM
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glad to see you agre with Joels made up BS *NM*
16/08/2011 07:17:18 PM
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It may be overstated, but it certainly isn't made up.
16/08/2011 07:35:09 PM
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his statement that they are accusing Obama of causing the riots is BS and he has admitted it
16/08/2011 07:46:46 PM
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