I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that.
Joel Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
and from a liberal news source to boot. I am not claiming that Politico is far left but I typically read it everyday and it with out a doubt left leaning. Hell just the sheer volume of Palin hate stories they have run should be enough to prove that. I don't that with all the press claiming that America will not accept another Texan so soon that it is possible to find some GOPs who are worried about but I do question the significance of it when they are not even willing to say it on the record. In 2007 who would have suspected that the country would elect a 1/2 term senator with a condescending smugness a preacher who shouts "god damn America" from the pulpit and less leadership experience then the average scout leader?
It would be tantamount to political suicide if Perry won the nomination and the presidency (not that I really think either is possible). As for your evaluation of media sources, you've pretty much said many times that you divide the media into right and left wing biased camps, excusing those with admitted right wing bias on the basis of allegations of left wing bias against the others, so I don't take your diagnose of one of the latter as any less biased. You may not like the perception "the liberal media" supposedly created, but that it exists among Republicans with no higher opinion of that media than yours should give you pause.
As to the nations widespread willingness to accept a 1/2 term senator as President, that comes from a general disappointment in the established leaders of both parties. His failure to demonstrate himself as any different from them is, again, his biggest obstacle to re-election, but his biggest asset is the hordes on the far right calling him a "socialist" when more of the country WANTS that than at any time since 1932 (indeed, the parallels with FDR are striking except that 1) Obama didn't have established credentials or party connections and 2) he's consisently pursued the same trickle down policies as his predecessor rather than abandoning them). You may have heard the anti-government GOP gospel, but the Republican insistence on preaching it is bringing Obamas presidency back from the brink of destruction. The hatred anti-government Republicans feel for Obama as a "socialist" is nothing new and won't beat him in 2012 any more than it did in 2008; what's put his presidency in a tailspin is that most of those who elected him by a healthy majority want government to contribute to, even partly accomplish, an economic recovery during which government has largely been MIA unless you're lucky enough to be one of the corporate barons who caused the economic collapse. Telling them they should vote Republican so they can have a government even LESS helpful and MORE generous to the corporate architects of economic disaster is NOT a selling point. You're basically telling them to vote Republican so they can get a more extreme version of Obamas broken promises, which does nothing so much as remind them why they were willing to take a chance on a young senator half way through his first term rather than continue on the same road to ruin they'd already traveled.
Again, not that it matters because Obama has amply demonstrated that, whether we get crony capitalism from him or Romney, that IS what we'll get. But maybe we'll get lucky and have Perry instead, so he can downsize government by taking your home to build toll roads owned by a private Spanish firm/campaign donor and force your children to take drugs made by a pharmaceutical firm/campaign donor. It's rather ironic, really; you get exactly what you want, whichever party is in power, and still think you have to vote Republican to achieve the policy goals whose disasters you misdiagnose.
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Tim Pawlenty drops out of the race
14/08/2011 07:20:58 PM
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Bummer, I liked him. *NM*
14/08/2011 07:23:42 PM
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Yeah, him and Cain are the only ones I actually liked to hear talk
14/08/2011 07:38:08 PM
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Grumpy and just nuts enough to be entertaining, from what I've heard...
14/08/2011 08:15:15 PM
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Probably better to say he's not polished
14/08/2011 08:46:37 PM
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Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
14/08/2011 11:16:20 PM
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Re: Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
15/08/2011 12:02:22 AM
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well I don't think his posistion on Israel will play much of a factor one way or the other
15/08/2011 02:07:55 AM
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I've never really gotten to know him... which kind of says enough.
14/08/2011 07:35:40 PM
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I think Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain are awesome. You should consider them *NM*
14/08/2011 09:25:55 PM
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About fucking time. Now if we could just get Santorum to drop, too.
14/08/2011 09:28:53 PM
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He'd indicated he would
14/08/2011 11:47:03 PM
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Oh, I don't think Bachmann WILL be kingmaker, but that's her goal.
15/08/2011 02:39:51 PM
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bachman is gonna be the vice presidential nominee for either Perry or Romney
15/08/2011 04:22:33 AM
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funny that I only see liberals making an issue of his religion *NM*
15/08/2011 05:13:03 AM
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It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 05:59:26 AM
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Re: It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 07:13:01 AM
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Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup.
15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM
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For the record, I'm not trying to poison any wells.
15/08/2011 09:54:53 AM
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I think the deal with Huckabee
15/08/2011 07:21:08 PM
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Huckabee didn't hide his beliefs, but also made clear he wouldn't try to legislate them.
16/08/2011 12:58:48 PM
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yeah i guess it was s liberal Fox reporter/talking head/whatever the Eff they are called
15/08/2011 07:07:07 AM
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I'm not sure why she had to apologize for saying that.
15/08/2011 09:56:39 AM
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because its not true? Mormons ARE Christians arent they?
15/08/2011 04:52:32 PM
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Except their founder taught, and his church teaches, that man is his own savior.
15/08/2011 05:54:28 PM
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well ok then, i didnt know all that
15/08/2011 06:58:22 PM
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Precisely; every Mormon you ever meet will ALWAYS insist they're Christian.
16/08/2011 01:57:06 PM
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So nutcase liberals and one woman on Fox News and she had the decency to apologize *NM*
15/08/2011 02:04:44 PM
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I find that highly unlikely.
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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I personally am considering voting for Romney , but I wouldnt underestimate Bachman and her power
15/08/2011 04:58:19 PM
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Also, it is very likely that Palin will not enter.....
14/08/2011 09:58:48 PM
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besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites?
15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM
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By the way, why did Kay B Hutch run against him in the primary election?
15/08/2011 03:43:52 AM
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Some did want to dump him, over the toll roads and mandatory HPV vaccines for school girls.
15/08/2011 03:58:38 AM
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you call losing by 15 points competing? *NM*
15/08/2011 04:07:08 AM
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It was 12.9%, which is pretty good for a Dem in a very red state during a very red year.
15/08/2011 04:26:58 AM
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Isn't that almost the exact same numbers Obama lost by in Texas?
15/08/2011 05:02:57 AM
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Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008?
15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM
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there was a perception that he was vulnerable
15/08/2011 04:48:41 AM
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He was vulnerable, he only won in 06 with 39 percent of the vote *NM*
15/08/2011 01:14:43 PM
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I have to agree with the take that it's symptomatic of a larger problem.
14/08/2011 10:23:02 PM
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There's no "victory laurel" there. The Iowa straw poll is as irrelevant as lint in one's navel.
14/08/2011 11:13:36 PM
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Largely true; it matters to people like Bachmann who need credibility, but to few others.
15/08/2011 12:20:48 AM
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unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM*
15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM
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Just because you don't like the quote doesn't make the person citing it "left leaning".
15/08/2011 02:00:15 AM
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It was a quote from Politico which is a left leaning news blog and the sources were unnamed
15/08/2011 02:14:09 AM
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If you say so.
15/08/2011 03:53:08 AM
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so you are going to just ignore the fact that your entire argument is based on unnamed sources?
15/08/2011 05:12:01 AM
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I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that.
15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
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I'm kinda curious how this thread got controversial
15/08/2011 06:26:15 AM
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Probably because I opined my impression that most of the viable GOP field looks pretty unimpressive.
15/08/2011 09:11:45 AM
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I look at politics like I look at sports and call races on what I believe will happen
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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Normally I'd say that's the best approach, but in US politics all teams play for the same owner.
15/08/2011 04:04:43 PM
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I am trying to keep it to just the facts and my opinion of the race
15/08/2011 02:49:47 PM
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Are we surprised by this?
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