unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM*
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM
It's a very skewed sampling of a very unrepresentative state and the votes are practically bought. If anyone wanted to pay enough money, he (or in this case, she) could come out on top.
The reason Romney and Perry ignored it in their own ways (and, in the case of Perry, snubbed it by stealing the press over it) is because as front-runners they don't need to waste the money to buy the straw poll. It was only important for candidates who were considered nobodys, because a straw poll win will give them some free press for a few days as the 24-hour news channels analyze to death the most irrelevant piece of political news out there.
The simple fact is that Romney is the strongest Republican candidate, followed by Perry, and one of the two of them will end up going up against Obama. Whether or not that person wins will probably have a hell of a lot to do with what the economy and jobs situation looks like, because it will be a referendum on the do-nothing President rather than a vote "for" the other candidate for a lot of voters (particularly independents).
I support Romney, but I could hold my nose and vote for Perry despite his social conservatism. If neither of them wins (and assuming no one better, like Christie, jumps into the race) I will just not vote rather than give a vote to anyone else. Maybe I'll write my own name in as a write-in. I'm old enough to be President.
You realize that Perrys much touted "job creation" record boils down to
1) A lot of people whose major qualification is the ability to ask "Do you want fries with that?" and
2) a lot of government jobs at the new (in many cases, duplicate) state agencies he created, which have been insulated from budget cuts in other states by the fact the Texas Legislature only meets every other year.
In the latter case, by the time Perry has to run hard for the GOP nomination, his chief merit, job creation, is likely to have evaporated when the next Legislative session axes government jobs to offset budget shortfalls as other states have. Meanwhile, while conservative Texas RAFOlk may not share that fear, even <a href="http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/08/04/some_question_perrys_electability.html">state GOP chairman worry that Perry will reek of Bush to the rest of the nation</a>. Not that it matters, because the corporate (i.e. important) "wing" of the party is so solidly behind Romney that <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60776.html">they even create new corporations for the sake of anonymously donating a million dollars to his campaign</a> (incidentally doing an end run around the limits on donations by ACTUAL "people"). Romney's your nominee, and probably our next President; I assume he won't be in office long before we find out if he's the anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-tax presidential candidate or the pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-tax MA governor. Maybe I should start a pool....
Not that ANY of it matters because, even though Obama consistently leads all Republican candidates by a fair margin (double digits over anyone but Romney), if there's one thing the "Hope and Change" candidate has proven it's that you get your corporate President no matter what because those are the only ones running; all we're debating now is which one of them gets the honor. Like I say, enjoy your second "one time" corporate tax holiday, because, Democratic Senate and "socialist" President notwithstanding, I think it's only a matter of months until it becomes law yet again. If you have any doubts about the real score, bear in mind this is the same "small government" GOP that didn't stop at slashing taxes for the major donors, but ran up $4 trillion worth of new debt invading two sovereign nations and passed the "USA PATRIOT" Act to silence its critics.
Tim Pawlenty drops out of the race
14/08/2011 07:20:58 PM
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Bummer, I liked him. *NM*
14/08/2011 07:23:42 PM
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Yeah, him and Cain are the only ones I actually liked to hear talk
14/08/2011 07:38:08 PM
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Grumpy and just nuts enough to be entertaining, from what I've heard...
14/08/2011 08:15:15 PM
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Probably better to say he's not polished
14/08/2011 08:46:37 PM
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Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
14/08/2011 11:16:20 PM
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Re: Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
15/08/2011 12:02:22 AM
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well I don't think his posistion on Israel will play much of a factor one way or the other
15/08/2011 02:07:55 AM
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I've never really gotten to know him... which kind of says enough.
14/08/2011 07:35:40 PM
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I think Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain are awesome. You should consider them *NM*
14/08/2011 09:25:55 PM
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About fucking time. Now if we could just get Santorum to drop, too.
14/08/2011 09:28:53 PM
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He'd indicated he would
14/08/2011 11:47:03 PM
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Oh, I don't think Bachmann WILL be kingmaker, but that's her goal.
15/08/2011 02:39:51 PM
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bachman is gonna be the vice presidential nominee for either Perry or Romney
15/08/2011 04:22:33 AM
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funny that I only see liberals making an issue of his religion *NM*
15/08/2011 05:13:03 AM
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It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 05:59:26 AM
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Re: It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 07:13:01 AM
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Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup.
15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM
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For the record, I'm not trying to poison any wells.
15/08/2011 09:54:53 AM
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I think the deal with Huckabee
15/08/2011 07:21:08 PM
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Huckabee didn't hide his beliefs, but also made clear he wouldn't try to legislate them.
16/08/2011 12:58:48 PM
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yeah i guess it was s liberal Fox reporter/talking head/whatever the Eff they are called
15/08/2011 07:07:07 AM
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I'm not sure why she had to apologize for saying that.
15/08/2011 09:56:39 AM
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because its not true? Mormons ARE Christians arent they?
15/08/2011 04:52:32 PM
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Except their founder taught, and his church teaches, that man is his own savior.
15/08/2011 05:54:28 PM
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well ok then, i didnt know all that
15/08/2011 06:58:22 PM
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Precisely; every Mormon you ever meet will ALWAYS insist they're Christian.
16/08/2011 01:57:06 PM
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So nutcase liberals and one woman on Fox News and she had the decency to apologize *NM*
15/08/2011 02:04:44 PM
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I find that highly unlikely.
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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I personally am considering voting for Romney , but I wouldnt underestimate Bachman and her power
15/08/2011 04:58:19 PM
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Also, it is very likely that Palin will not enter.....
14/08/2011 09:58:48 PM
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besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites?
15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM
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By the way, why did Kay B Hutch run against him in the primary election?
15/08/2011 03:43:52 AM
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Some did want to dump him, over the toll roads and mandatory HPV vaccines for school girls.
15/08/2011 03:58:38 AM
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you call losing by 15 points competing? *NM*
15/08/2011 04:07:08 AM
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It was 12.9%, which is pretty good for a Dem in a very red state during a very red year.
15/08/2011 04:26:58 AM
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Isn't that almost the exact same numbers Obama lost by in Texas?
15/08/2011 05:02:57 AM
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Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008?
15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM
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there was a perception that he was vulnerable
15/08/2011 04:48:41 AM
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He was vulnerable, he only won in 06 with 39 percent of the vote *NM*
15/08/2011 01:14:43 PM
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I have to agree with the take that it's symptomatic of a larger problem.
14/08/2011 10:23:02 PM
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There's no "victory laurel" there. The Iowa straw poll is as irrelevant as lint in one's navel.
14/08/2011 11:13:36 PM
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Largely true; it matters to people like Bachmann who need credibility, but to few others.
15/08/2011 12:20:48 AM
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unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM*
15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM
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Just because you don't like the quote doesn't make the person citing it "left leaning".
15/08/2011 02:00:15 AM
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It was a quote from Politico which is a left leaning news blog and the sources were unnamed
15/08/2011 02:14:09 AM
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If you say so.
15/08/2011 03:53:08 AM
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so you are going to just ignore the fact that your entire argument is based on unnamed sources?
15/08/2011 05:12:01 AM
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I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that.
15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
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I'm kinda curious how this thread got controversial
15/08/2011 06:26:15 AM
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Probably because I opined my impression that most of the viable GOP field looks pretty unimpressive.
15/08/2011 09:11:45 AM
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I look at politics like I look at sports and call races on what I believe will happen
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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Normally I'd say that's the best approach, but in US politics all teams play for the same owner.
15/08/2011 04:04:43 PM
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I am trying to keep it to just the facts and my opinion of the race
15/08/2011 02:49:47 PM
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Are we surprised by this?
15/08/2011 07:05:59 PM
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