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You can hope there is. Tim Send a noteboard - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM
Meanwhile, I'll continue to be glad that we stopped executing petty thieves about 200 years ago. In case you hadn't noticed, capital punishment as a deterrent doesn't work, which is why the US has so many murders (5.4 per 100k) while Western/Central Europe has so few (1.5 per 100k).
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.

—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.

—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
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London snoopcester - 08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM 1831 Views
i freaked out when i heard about that Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 02:09:10 PM 1067 Views
Re: i freaked out when i heard about that snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:47:16 PM 910 Views
It's pretty scary. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM 935 Views
I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM 955 Views
I'm sure the media will manage to blame the police somehow Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:11:40 PM 845 Views
I've been following the story. Spriteling - 08/08/2011 03:26:51 PM 911 Views
I cannot quite make out what is going on Camilla - 08/08/2011 03:27:57 PM 1063 Views
No, that's about it as far as we know Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:40:15 PM 1088 Views
Re: I cannot quite make out what is going on snoopcester - 08/08/2011 03:40:21 PM 953 Views
Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM* Tom - 08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM 503 Views
Sounds good to me *NM* Wibble - 08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM 485 Views
Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example... Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM 986 Views
Given what has been reported snoopcester - 08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM 1017 Views
So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets? beetnemesis - 09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM 995 Views
Had a gun, didn't fire snoopcester - 09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM 922 Views
Not actually true Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM 898 Views
Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM 996 Views
Now that's a good point Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:45:26 PM 962 Views
I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM 1004 Views
There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM 908 Views
He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way. Rebekah - 09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM 979 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM 1021 Views
There are various proofs snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM 914 Views
True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM 944 Views
Bullshit Wibble - 10/08/2011 01:12:46 AM 846 Views
If that's the case it's hard to say they overreacted. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:22:45 AM 807 Views
I do see why it matters if he fired or not random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM 862 Views
Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM 965 Views
Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn... beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM 924 Views
sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts random thoughts - 10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM 1048 Views
They've announced that the "unknown" gun was never fired beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 02:04:26 PM 936 Views
So? Are the police supposed to let him get the first shot? *NM* random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:15:59 PM 508 Views
...said Gaddafi. *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM 481 Views
And?... *NM* Wibble - 10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM 460 Views
And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street. Tim - 10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM 931 Views
Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote. Tom - 10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM 891 Views
Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM 511 Views
Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM* Tom - 10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM 445 Views
You can hope there is. Tim - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM 905 Views
...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM* beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM 497 Views
+1 Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 05:17:22 PM 907 Views
Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam. Tim - 10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM 1014 Views
LMAO *NM* Aisha - 10/08/2011 06:22:11 PM 474 Views
If you want to talk statistics... Tom - 13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM 857 Views
So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does? Tim - 14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM 1042 Views
No, that wasn't my point. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:14 PM 1011 Views
light yagami felt the same way Yunalesca - 14/08/2011 01:20:02 PM 1013 Views
Please speak English. *NM* Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:46 PM 490 Views
They think they have a good reason for what they're doing snoopcester - 10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM 862 Views
If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do. Tom - 10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM 785 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 10/08/2011 04:05:55 PM 972 Views
This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property Joel - 08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM 955 Views
I am sure dart_board - 09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM 955 Views
I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM 864 Views
You will. *NM* dart_board - 10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM 475 Views
I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM 898 Views
This is utterly awful. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM 1043 Views
Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham snoopcester - 08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM 957 Views
And if they had got the army out Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM 931 Views
That's true. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 10:03:03 PM 937 Views
pfft Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:23:37 PM 912 Views
I think the vast majority of people would be just fine with it snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:08:34 PM 1072 Views
They call it "martial law" for a reason. Joel - 09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM 907 Views
Might work in the US snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM 955 Views
When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM 935 Views
Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots random thoughts - 09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM 899 Views
Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM 902 Views
I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM 850 Views
Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM 1163 Views
That article supports my argument random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:15 PM 819 Views
OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once. random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM 878 Views
I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM 1006 Views
so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM 932 Views
I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM 998 Views
and I am saying you have no idea who the tea party is random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:06:15 AM 891 Views
I guess I should've used the Progressive Caucus instead. Joel - 10/08/2011 04:25:30 PM 963 Views
Seriously, is it mostly kids? nossy - 08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM 847 Views
They don't have parents Wibble - 08/08/2011 10:10:07 PM 1030 Views
A hell of a lot seem to be snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM 921 Views
I'd be tempted to go down there with a cattle prod. nossy - 08/08/2011 10:14:14 PM 980 Views
I think there might be too many of them snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:23:05 PM 910 Views
If that link still isn't working, try here snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:29:19 PM 851 Views
I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM 1029 Views
its getting absolutely mental Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:21:32 PM 910 Views
Congratulations Ken Livingstone Wibble - 08/08/2011 11:44:29 PM 947 Views
Agree on the first part snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM 950 Views
Um... This is the first I've read / heard about it Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 03:43:02 AM 873 Views
Looks a bit like a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie Sports_Gambler - 09/08/2011 06:38:59 AM 943 Views
Apparently that's a surprisingly common error. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:34:30 PM 965 Views
Horrible Mark - 09/08/2011 11:18:21 AM 830 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 12:55:00 PM 1004 Views
Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM 869 Views
People have set up the same thing on Facebook and flickr as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:23:42 PM 930 Views
... Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 04:12:55 PM 911 Views
Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC Fox and Ravens - 09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM 1050 Views
Holy crap, what is wrong with those people?? ironclad - 09/08/2011 02:23:39 PM 872 Views
how does 'they are brainless idiots' grab you? *NM* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:03:51 PM 405 Views
What's with that last picture set? Nate - 09/08/2011 04:39:53 PM 938 Views
Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour, snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM 978 Views
The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM* Macharius - 09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM 432 Views
I imagine that's the point. Nate - 09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM 1054 Views
That was my take on it as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:03:51 PM 968 Views
Re: That was my take on it as well Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:32:12 AM 1043 Views
*sprays water over laptop screen* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:07:07 PM 922 Views
lol wow...that was a bit much *NM* Aisha - 09/08/2011 05:26:33 PM 409 Views
To be fair Sidious - 09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM 1169 Views
You make a fair point. snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:05:26 PM 843 Views
Send in the army! Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 11:37:15 PM 866 Views
That is just lovely. *NM* Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:27:34 AM 432 Views
Remember you're a womble! Zeeb - 09/08/2011 06:49:52 PM 923 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:09:35 PM 950 Views
Re: Yes Zeeb - 09/08/2011 07:32:18 PM 946 Views
i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 950 Views
This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM 868 Views
The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world snoopcester - 09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM 872 Views
Well, it's not really anti-foreigner sentiment, is it? beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:57:55 AM 963 Views
Not yet but then it isn't pro either snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:25:13 AM 939 Views
She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend. Avendesora - 10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM 939 Views
Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM 850 Views
I'm flying to the midlands tomorrow. Helene - 10/08/2011 07:35:28 AM 908 Views
It seems to be only happening in the evenings and at night. Tim - 10/08/2011 10:59:55 AM 816 Views
I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury Druid - 10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM 1016 Views
Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM 1010 Views
Oi!!! Druid - 11/08/2011 04:40:04 AM 1082 Views
Aussie, Aussie? snoopcester - 11/08/2011 11:50:47 AM 992 Views
I saw Nick Griffin's twitter last night Stephen - 10/08/2011 12:23:01 PM 874 Views
Yeah, I saw he had been. He's a great little scum bag snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 PM 974 Views
*dual facepalm* Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 02:45:03 PM 926 Views
Effing EDL snoopcester - 10/08/2011 09:28:41 PM 979 Views
I liked this blog Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:29:42 AM 882 Views
Quite good snoopcester - 12/08/2011 02:57:35 PM 960 Views
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