I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM
The question of whether or not London should shoot teenagers for stealing shoes like we do here in the US does seems a little odd since we haven't shot a looter in any riot that I can remember.
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08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM
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It's pretty scary.
08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM
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I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton
08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM
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Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM*
08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM
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Sounds good to me *NM*
08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM
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Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example...
08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM
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Given what has been reported
08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM
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So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets?
09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM
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Had a gun, didn't fire
09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM
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Not actually true
09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM
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Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either
09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM
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There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that.
09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM
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He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way.
09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM
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Fair enough.
09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM
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There are various proofs
10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM
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True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available.
10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM
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I do see why it matters if he fired or not
10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM
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Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works.
10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM
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Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn...
10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM
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sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts
10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM
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...said Gaddafi. *NM*
10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM
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And?... *NM*
10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM
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And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street.
10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM
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Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote.
10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM
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Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM*
10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM
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Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM*
10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM
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You can hope there is.
10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM
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...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM*
10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM
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Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam.
10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM
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If you want to talk statistics...
13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM
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So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does?
14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM
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They think they have a good reason for what they're doing
10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM
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If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do.
10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM
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This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property
08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM
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I am sure
09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM
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I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this.
09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM
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You will. *NM*
10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM
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I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me.
10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM
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This is utterly awful.
08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM
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Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham
08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM
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And if they had got the army out
08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM
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They call it "martial law" for a reason.
09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM
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Might work in the US
09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM
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When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic.
09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM
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Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots
09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM
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Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots.
09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM
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I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here
09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM
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Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here.
09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM
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OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once.
09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM
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I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try.
09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM
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so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right
10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM
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I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive.
10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM
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Seriously, is it mostly kids?
08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM
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A hell of a lot seem to be
08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM
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I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass.
09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM
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Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters
09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM
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Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC
09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM
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Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour,
09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM
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The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM*
09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM
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I imagine that's the point.
09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM
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To be fair
09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM
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i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window
09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM
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This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe.
09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM
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The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world
09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM
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She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend.
10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM
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Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere
10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM
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I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury
10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM
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Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury
10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM
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