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In reality, its Congress (BOTH parties) AND the President who are to blame. MrFarstrider Send a noteboard - 08/08/2011 01:59:13 AM
If both houses would've compromised on a smallish tax increase and a smallish spending cut, we would be bringing in more revenue AND spending less money without extending the debt ceiling. But instead, old time politics continued on both sides with an extension of the debt ceiling and big time spending cuts over such a long period that any type of 9/11 type of event will throw the cuts out the window for a war time scenario. Since both decided to entrench themselves on opposite sides, nothing productive was achieved and Obama folded on his promise to not cut entitlements.

Nothing was fixed. The problem with overspending is still there. Both Republicans AND Democrats are to blame and S&P did the right thing to downgrade us. They can see that nothing was fixed by extending out debt ceiling.
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I took it to translate to "argument." *NM* rebelaessedai - 08/08/2011 01:27:55 AM 465 Views
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Leaders have to lead..... trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 05:18:21 AM 805 Views
Cuts aren't up to him, though. Great Lord of Chaos - 06/08/2011 05:37:50 AM 846 Views
Yeah, sure, the President has no say or control.....good grief..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 06:13:49 AM 474 Views
I did not say that. Great Lord of Chaos - 06/08/2011 06:51:35 AM 920 Views
S&P didn't demand cuts, they demanded fiscal responsibility. Joel - 06/08/2011 03:18:10 PM 1085 Views
Obama caved spectacularly to avoid a default. Great Lord of Chaos - 06/08/2011 04:37:21 PM 895 Views
Obama caved spectacularly to ease re-election. Joel - 06/08/2011 05:34:04 PM 1070 Views
and haters gotta hate..... *NM* Aisha - 06/08/2011 05:49:25 AM 449 Views
I admit it, I hate what Obama is doing to our country..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 06:12:39 AM 464 Views
It's not Obama, but the Tea Party Amelia Pond - 06/08/2011 06:16:38 PM 933 Views
The biggest? why that is pretty damn big!!! random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:29:24 PM 861 Views
you, it was the tea party republicans that caused this Roland00 - 06/08/2011 05:57:16 AM 937 Views
Your momma is more to blame than the Tea Party..... trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 06:12:05 AM 811 Views
S&P demanded more DEFICIT REDUCTION. Joel - 06/08/2011 03:55:19 PM 957 Views
As ever your disinterest in facts seems to be central to your posting. snoopcester - 06/08/2011 11:34:20 AM 905 Views
Which would be less annoying if so much of Congress didn't suffer from the same delusions. Joel - 06/08/2011 03:48:04 PM 788 Views
Does Timmy G play sax like his brother Kenny? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/08/2011 01:11:17 PM 449 Views
Fun fact - I dated in HS Kenny G's niece..... trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 03:13:52 PM 798 Views
Re: Fun fact - I dated in HS Kenny G's niece..... TaskmasterJack - 06/08/2011 04:50:35 PM 895 Views
Sadly, not that niece!!! *NM* trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 06:40:39 PM 460 Views
S&P specifically cited GOP refusal to raise taxes among their reasons. Joel - 06/08/2011 03:10:22 PM 968 Views
Of course one could just read the actual S&P report Isaac - 06/08/2011 04:01:07 PM 968 Views
Sure. Joel - 06/08/2011 04:53:47 PM 976 Views
Right, ABC new's summary of the report is not the report Isaac - 06/08/2011 07:02:46 PM 1276 Views
Link works, but I'm not sure why you think it refutes snoops assessment or mine. Joel - 06/08/2011 08:35:10 PM 1071 Views
It doesn't refute it, it just isn't this simple distillation you're offering Isaac - 06/08/2011 09:23:33 PM 892 Views
It's more than half a sentence; I quoted several paragraphs. Joel - 06/08/2011 09:56:31 PM 776 Views
Well yes, after I gave you the report, I think I'm pretty obviously refering to before that Isaac - 06/08/2011 11:02:17 PM 794 Views
Before you and Joel continue on with dragging my name into this snoopcester - 06/08/2011 11:47:00 PM 903 Views
That's the trouble with a highly partisan environment: Joel - 07/08/2011 01:37:57 AM 915 Views
Before that I was referring to the paragraphs quoted in the ABC report. Joel - 07/08/2011 01:21:18 AM 1208 Views
not really random thoughts - 06/08/2011 10:15:32 PM 842 Views
"the mix of spending and revenue measures" Joel - 06/08/2011 10:23:06 PM 923 Views
So you read the statement that they take no posistion as they take the dem position? random thoughts - 07/08/2011 04:51:58 AM 920 Views
I read a "mix" to be a mix. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:14:35 AM 836 Views
So in other words you just ignore the actaull words and read it say what you want it to say *NM* random thoughts - 09/08/2011 02:07:57 PM 518 Views
A mix of something and nothing is impossible; one thing is one thing, not a mix. Joel - 09/08/2011 04:56:00 PM 1020 Views
Would 99.99% to 0.01% be a mix? random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:25:08 PM 1100 Views
Yup, but 100% to 0% is not. Joel - 09/08/2011 06:35:13 PM 930 Views
They should all resign Praziquantel - 06/08/2011 05:47:56 PM 955 Views
US politicians are too busy fighting over who gets to play the fiddle. *NM* Nate - 06/08/2011 05:53:32 PM 465 Views
You are either really naive or just stupid. Which is it? *NM* everynametaken - 06/08/2011 06:31:58 PM 440 Views
Reply to everyone whining about the Tea Party..... trzaska2000 - 06/08/2011 06:58:40 PM 987 Views
When did Boehner agree to $800 billion in revenue increases?! Joel - 06/08/2011 08:49:51 PM 931 Views
Wait Wait Wait.... Dominic - 07/08/2011 05:31:20 AM 931 Views
In Jersey The Doctor - 07/08/2011 06:13:23 PM 1023 Views
would him resigning really help? Yunalesca - 07/08/2011 10:24:00 AM 884 Views
not as long as he has the high functioning moron Joe Biden as VP. random thoughts - 08/08/2011 12:34:32 AM 877 Views
In reality, its Congress (BOTH parties) AND the President who are to blame. MrFarstrider - 08/08/2011 01:59:13 AM 898 Views
40% is not a small tax increase and a small spending cut Roland00 - 09/08/2011 04:20:28 AM 777 Views
Why are people making a deal about the debt ceiling increase? Nate - 09/08/2011 03:42:13 PM 812 Views
We do have a debt ceiling for a reason random thoughts - 09/08/2011 04:05:59 PM 827 Views
Because, when you get down to it, the debt ceilings very existence was always a political threat. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:02:12 PM 782 Views
Ultimately, I'm forced to agree completely. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:09:19 PM 860 Views
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