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Re: I'm loving your latest typo. random thoughts Send a noteboard - 31/07/2011 03:22:21 PM
I'm not gonna criticize you on form because that's just sophistry in which I don't engage, but it does seem like a Freudian slip. ;)


no it looks like I hit the space bar a second to early and spell checker doesn't check the subject. But hey it is all about perspective.

Maybe we should ask John Boehner.... ;)

I did he and he said that the republicans in the house have managed to pass to bills that would save us from defaulting while the other side continues to posture and offer nothing.

Cute. Bottom line remains that the only to get his own bill through the House was to make it a copy of the Tea Partys; nice "alternative", Mr. Speaker.


Step back from the rhetoric. The Tea party doesn't like his bill. I know that doesn't make a great bumper sticker but reality is stubborn that way.

The tea party is closer to the center than the democratic leadership is. Yes you can find some issues where the polls don't favor the tea party but in the end of the day there are two facts to consider.

1. People want change and didn't get from the change guy. We have reached a strange point in history where the progressives want to keep thing going like they and the conservatives are demanding change.

Obama's delivered no more progressivism than he has change, less in fact; his centerpiece "progressive" legislation was a massive handout to insurance companies to go along with his massive handouts to Wall Street and the Big Three. Meanwhile, I fail to see how demanding we continue decades of tax cuts is "change". You starved the beast until it's nearly dead; demanding a coup de grace next Tuesday is not "change".

2. The democrats are getting some traction using scare tactics on the debt ceiling but when things are over people just might notice that the dems were willing to take us the brink to score political points with their base by fighting a tax but the expires in less than a year and half. I know the polls say Americans want tax increases and spending cuts (real ones not those Reid pretend ones that even the liberal media has scoffed at) but show me a poll where they ask if they want to risk default over a tax cut that is set to expire before the current president leaves office and that was extended by the same people who are now demanding it be killed.

If we don't raise taxes AND cut spending default is not a risk, it's a certainty; the only question is whether it happens next Tuesday or later. People on SS losing thier CoLA and telling people about to be they have to wait for Medicare they've paid for all their lives is scaring the Dem "base" (i.e. people who don't earn $250,000 and thus won't benefit from the tax cuts paid for with their retirement fund) just fine with no help from Obama.

As for how hard it is to fix he US political system, I think that helps explain why Perry isn't considered a radical in Texas by his remarks that secession isn't such a bad idea. I know the left hopes to get some traction out of those statements but it will be easy for him to turn that around and explain he was simply pointing out something almost everyone agrees with, the federal government is dysfunctional.

Dude, Perry has ZERO hope, and if you doubt that you do NOT understand where the rest of the country is. No, it won't be "easy" for him to explain why he endorsed secession; it'll remind people of the Southern Strategy you insist the Karl Rove of his day simply hallucinated. Texas governors are a BIT toxic right now, in a nation where people still blame the last one over Obama 2:1 for the economy and CBO analysis says they're about right. The only way Perry's getting to the White House is if Romney or Obama invites him to their Inauguration, which seems pretty unlikely.

Look at the polls Joel. Perry is almost even with Romney and he hasn't even started yet and Obama's approval rating is setting at 40%. More than anything else America want solutions and Obama has proven he has none to offer.

I've seen the polls, lot's of them; Perry is almost even with Romney AMONG REPUBLICANS and has been, since a poll of fundie Republicans (in SC, I think) about a month ago said he'd blow the doors off Romney and everyone else. I didn't say REPUBLICANS wouldn't nominate a TX Governor, I said the nation wouldn't elect him; personally, I hope ya'll DO nominate Perry, and not just because Romneys pedigree and wildly vacillating policy scares the hell out of me. If you want to nominate someone the country will see as Bush III (which is unfair to Bush 41, but anyway... ) be my guest.


Well I suspect that most of people small minded and petty enough to not vote for someone because they don't like someone else from the same state are already democrats so that shouldn't be a problem. No here his real problem is he really is as much of a social conservative as the media tried to claim Bush was. The libertarian wing and the independents don't want that.

But I guess we've left third party politics behind for a partisan pissing contest, so never mind.

That is because I already said there is zero chance of change and I don't see the point of debating which version of the impossible make s the most sense.

If there's zero chance of change the nation is screwed because, whether or not it's already happened, sooner or later both Republicans and Democrats will become a net detriment to the nation and it will be time to change. I don't think America has turned into Jonestown just yet, fortunately.


Then we are screwed because we are not changing our political system and our system favors two parties. If you don't like it you can always move to Norway.
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2nd Quarter GDP at 1.3% - 1st Quarter downgraded to 0.4% - trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 02:31:07 PM 725 Views
...do all your posts have to be about evicting Obama out of the White House? *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 29/07/2011 02:49:36 PM 196 Views
Not all, see the thread about the God Particle below..... trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 02:57:09 PM 499 Views
wasn't that good, sorry *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:28:42 PM 267 Views
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What exactly in my post is "cheering"..... trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 02:56:00 PM 503 Views
well I guess the dancing banna is just your sig random thoughts - 29/07/2011 02:58:45 PM 453 Views
Yeah, the dancing banana can give that impression, understood trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 03:03:45 PM 537 Views
Why does the Dancing Banana have a cape? *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:33:29 PM 368 Views
On a side note this could be a Quickpoll.. so post a few answers *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:40:54 PM 306 Views
my contibution, to keep the sun off it's back peel *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:50:24 PM 317 Views
Re: Why does the Dancing Banana have a cape? And be nice!!!! *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:51:49 PM 335 Views
I guess it is a super dancing banana! trzaska2000 - 30/07/2011 03:22:02 AM 422 Views
Fun Fun *NM* Nolan - 30/07/2011 08:00:52 PM 317 Views
when you find me and snoop agreeing on something you might want to look at it *NM* random thoughts - 29/07/2011 02:59:49 PM 202 Views
Saved me the trouble of responding, to boot. Joel - 29/07/2011 03:36:49 PM 577 Views
well any plan designed to break the control of the two parties random thoughts - 29/07/2011 03:40:15 PM 512 Views
Neither of the two major partys is integral to America nor vital to its survival. Joel - 29/07/2011 03:59:38 PM 696 Views
I agree but the control the rules and are not going to change the rules if it hurts that control random thoughts - 29/07/2011 04:45:09 PM 632 Views
Third Parties will never take off unless they get quality candidates regardless of voting system. Macharius - 29/07/2011 05:30:10 PM 514 Views
Also true, but that's just more reason to rescind their control. Joel - 30/07/2011 03:52:07 PM 582 Views
the tea party as not as far right as you like to belive random thoughts - 30/07/2011 04:38:40 PM 504 Views
Well, one of us is obviously wrong about that. Joel - 30/07/2011 05:22:14 PM 576 Views
thank god iti s me; random thoughts - 30/07/2011 06:12:24 PM 578 Views
I'm loving your latest typo. Joel - 30/07/2011 07:19:01 PM 591 Views
Re: I'm loving your latest typo. random thoughts - 31/07/2011 03:22:21 PM 554 Views
Re: I'm loving your latest typo. Joel - 01/08/2011 05:01:19 AM 793 Views
you are flailing random thoughts - 01/08/2011 02:52:57 PM 559 Views
No, you are reaching. Joel - 02/08/2011 12:39:24 PM 448 Views
"we both agree that Obama's COLOSSALLY failed at leadership" trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 03:47:48 PM 485 Views
Some things aren't about hippies vs. fascists, and Americas well being should definitely qualify. Joel - 29/07/2011 03:51:03 PM 491 Views
Wow, the stick up your butt has its own stick up its butt..... trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 09:09:20 PM 514 Views
Manners MR.!!! *NM* Nolan - 29/07/2011 09:23:38 PM 341 Views
Okay, okay, but that was a pretty funny reply! Joel gets too serious sometimes. *NM* trzaska2000 - 30/07/2011 03:23:30 AM 196 Views
It's all fun and games until the country goes bankrupt. Joel - 30/07/2011 05:23:29 PM 471 Views
The British economy is struggling fairly badly under the Tories snoopcester - 29/07/2011 02:54:51 PM 531 Views
I think you missed the latest update on that... Nebhead - 30/07/2011 03:10:27 PM 688 Views
Oh dear snoopcester - 30/07/2011 03:18:45 PM 459 Views
China Bored - 29/07/2011 05:27:46 PM 755 Views
Re: China Macharius - 29/07/2011 05:36:03 PM 492 Views
I was actually thinking about that this morning. nossy - 29/07/2011 05:52:08 PM 584 Views
They have enough markets in the rest of the developing world and at home. Legolas - 29/07/2011 06:23:13 PM 582 Views
They have us where they want us but don't dare pull the trigger. Joel - 30/07/2011 05:46:12 PM 613 Views
Another term for Obama and we might end up there! *NM* trzaska2000 - 29/07/2011 09:07:46 PM 304 Views
the country is going to shit in a handbasket. hooray! let's all dance a jig moondog - 30/07/2011 01:05:12 AM 480 Views
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