I'm not gonna criticize you on form because that's just sophistry in which I don't engage, but it does seem like a Freudian slip. 
I did he and he said that the republicans in the house have managed to pass to bills that would save us from defaulting while the other side continues to posture and offer nothing.
Cute. Bottom line remains that the only to get his own bill through the House was to make it a copy of the Tea Partys; nice "alternative", Mr. Speaker.
Obama's delivered no more progressivism than he has change, less in fact; his centerpiece "progressive" legislation was a massive handout to insurance companies to go along with his massive handouts to Wall Street and the Big Three. Meanwhile, I fail to see how demanding we continue decades of tax cuts is "change". You starved the beast until it's nearly dead; demanding a coup de grace next Tuesday is not "change".
If we don't raise taxes AND cut spending default is not a risk, it's a certainty; the only question is whether it happens next Tuesday or later. People on SS losing thier CoLA and telling people about to be they have to wait for Medicare they've paid for all their lives is scaring the Dem "base" (i.e. people who don't earn $250,000 and thus won't benefit from the tax cuts paid for with their retirement fund) just fine with no help from Obama.
Dude, Perry has ZERO hope, and if you doubt that you do NOT understand where the rest of the country is. No, it won't be "easy" for him to explain why he endorsed secession; it'll remind people of the Southern Strategy you insist the Karl Rove of his day simply hallucinated. Texas governors are a BIT toxic right now, in a nation where people still blame the last one over Obama 2:1 for the economy and CBO analysis says they're about right. The only way Perry's getting to the White House is if Romney or Obama invites him to their Inauguration, which seems pretty unlikely.
Look at the polls Joel. Perry is almost even with Romney and he hasn't even started yet and Obama's approval rating is setting at 40%. More than anything else America want solutions and Obama has proven he has none to offer.
I've seen the polls, lot's of them; Perry is almost even with Romney AMONG REPUBLICANS and has been, since a poll of fundie Republicans (in SC, I think) about a month ago said he'd blow the doors off Romney and everyone else. I didn't say REPUBLICANS wouldn't nominate a TX Governor, I said the nation wouldn't elect him; personally, I hope ya'll DO nominate Perry, and not just because Romneys pedigree and wildly vacillating policy scares the hell out of me. If you want to nominate someone the country will see as Bush III (which is unfair to Bush 41, but anyway... ) be my guest.
That is because I already said there is zero chance of change and I don't see the point of debating which version of the impossible make s the most sense.
If there's zero chance of change the nation is screwed because, whether or not it's already happened, sooner or later both Republicans and Democrats will become a net detriment to the nation and it will be time to change. I don't think America has turned into Jonestown just yet, fortunately.
Maybe we should ask John Boehner....
I did he and he said that the republicans in the house have managed to pass to bills that would save us from defaulting while the other side continues to posture and offer nothing.
Cute. Bottom line remains that the only to get his own bill through the House was to make it a copy of the Tea Partys; nice "alternative", Mr. Speaker.
The tea party is closer to the center than the democratic leadership is. Yes you can find some issues where the polls don't favor the tea party but in the end of the day there are two facts to consider.
1. People want change and didn't get from the change guy. We have reached a strange point in history where the progressives want to keep thing going like they and the conservatives are demanding change.
1. People want change and didn't get from the change guy. We have reached a strange point in history where the progressives want to keep thing going like they and the conservatives are demanding change.
Obama's delivered no more progressivism than he has change, less in fact; his centerpiece "progressive" legislation was a massive handout to insurance companies to go along with his massive handouts to Wall Street and the Big Three. Meanwhile, I fail to see how demanding we continue decades of tax cuts is "change". You starved the beast until it's nearly dead; demanding a coup de grace next Tuesday is not "change".
2. The democrats are getting some traction using scare tactics on the debt ceiling but when things are over people just might notice that the dems were willing to take us the brink to score political points with their base by fighting a tax but the expires in less than a year and half. I know the polls say Americans want tax increases and spending cuts (real ones not those Reid pretend ones that even the liberal media has scoffed at) but show me a poll where they ask if they want to risk default over a tax cut that is set to expire before the current president leaves office and that was extended by the same people who are now demanding it be killed.
If we don't raise taxes AND cut spending default is not a risk, it's a certainty; the only question is whether it happens next Tuesday or later. People on SS losing thier CoLA and telling people about to be they have to wait for Medicare they've paid for all their lives is scaring the Dem "base" (i.e. people who don't earn $250,000 and thus won't benefit from the tax cuts paid for with their retirement fund) just fine with no help from Obama.
As for how hard it is to fix he US political system, I think that helps explain why Perry isn't considered a radical in Texas by his remarks that secession isn't such a bad idea. I know the left hopes to get some traction out of those statements but it will be easy for him to turn that around and explain he was simply pointing out something almost everyone agrees with, the federal government is dysfunctional.
Dude, Perry has ZERO hope, and if you doubt that you do NOT understand where the rest of the country is. No, it won't be "easy" for him to explain why he endorsed secession; it'll remind people of the Southern Strategy you insist the Karl Rove of his day simply hallucinated. Texas governors are a BIT toxic right now, in a nation where people still blame the last one over Obama 2:1 for the economy and CBO analysis says they're about right. The only way Perry's getting to the White House is if Romney or Obama invites him to their Inauguration, which seems pretty unlikely.
Look at the polls Joel. Perry is almost even with Romney and he hasn't even started yet and Obama's approval rating is setting at 40%. More than anything else America want solutions and Obama has proven he has none to offer.
I've seen the polls, lot's of them; Perry is almost even with Romney AMONG REPUBLICANS and has been, since a poll of fundie Republicans (in SC, I think) about a month ago said he'd blow the doors off Romney and everyone else. I didn't say REPUBLICANS wouldn't nominate a TX Governor, I said the nation wouldn't elect him; personally, I hope ya'll DO nominate Perry, and not just because Romneys pedigree and wildly vacillating policy scares the hell out of me. If you want to nominate someone the country will see as Bush III (which is unfair to Bush 41, but anyway... ) be my guest.
But I guess we've left third party politics behind for a partisan pissing contest, so never mind.
That is because I already said there is zero chance of change and I don't see the point of debating which version of the impossible make s the most sense.
If there's zero chance of change the nation is screwed because, whether or not it's already happened, sooner or later both Republicans and Democrats will become a net detriment to the nation and it will be time to change. I don't think America has turned into Jonestown just yet, fortunately.
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2nd Quarter GDP at 1.3% - 1st Quarter downgraded to 0.4% - 
- 29/07/2011 02:31:07 PM
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- 29/07/2011 02:31:07 PM
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...do all your posts have to be about evicting Obama out of the White House? *NM*
- 29/07/2011 02:49:36 PM
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you know coming off as cheering that the economy it crap doesn't put you in a good light
- 29/07/2011 02:50:24 PM
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What exactly in my post is "cheering".....
- 29/07/2011 02:56:00 PM
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well I guess the dancing banna is just your sig
- 29/07/2011 02:58:45 PM
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Yeah, the dancing banana can give that impression, understood
- 29/07/2011 03:03:45 PM
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Why does the Dancing Banana have a cape? *NM*
- 29/07/2011 09:33:29 PM
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On a side note this could be a Quickpoll.. so post a few answers 
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- 29/07/2011 09:40:54 PM
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- 29/07/2011 09:40:54 PM
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Re: Why does the Dancing Banana have a cape? And be nice!!!! *NM*
- 29/07/2011 09:51:49 PM
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when you find me and snoop agreeing on something you might want to look at it *NM*
- 29/07/2011 02:59:49 PM
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Saved me the trouble of responding, to boot.
- 29/07/2011 03:36:49 PM
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well any plan designed to break the control of the two parties
- 29/07/2011 03:40:15 PM
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Neither of the two major partys is integral to America nor vital to its survival.
- 29/07/2011 03:59:38 PM
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I agree but the control the rules and are not going to change the rules if it hurts that control
- 29/07/2011 04:45:09 PM
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Third Parties will never take off unless they get quality candidates regardless of voting system.
- 29/07/2011 05:30:10 PM
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Also true, but that's just more reason to rescind their control.
- 30/07/2011 03:52:07 PM
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the tea party as not as far right as you like to belive
- 30/07/2011 04:38:40 PM
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Well, one of us is obviously wrong about that.
- 30/07/2011 05:22:14 PM
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thank god iti s me;
- 30/07/2011 06:12:24 PM
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I'm loving your latest typo. 
- 30/07/2011 07:19:01 PM
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- 30/07/2011 07:19:01 PM
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Re: I'm loving your latest typo.
- 31/07/2011 03:22:21 PM
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Re: I'm loving your latest typo.
- 01/08/2011 05:01:19 AM
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- 01/08/2011 05:01:19 AM
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"we both agree that Obama's COLOSSALLY failed at leadership"
- 29/07/2011 03:47:48 PM
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Some things aren't about hippies vs. fascists, and Americas well being should definitely qualify.
- 29/07/2011 03:51:03 PM
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Wow, the stick up your butt has its own stick up its butt.....
- 29/07/2011 09:09:20 PM
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Manners MR.!!! *NM*
- 29/07/2011 09:23:38 PM
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Okay, okay, but that was a pretty funny reply! Joel gets too serious sometimes. *NM*
- 30/07/2011 03:23:30 AM
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The British economy is struggling fairly badly under the Tories
- 29/07/2011 02:54:51 PM
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China
- 29/07/2011 05:27:46 PM
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Re: China
- 29/07/2011 05:36:03 PM
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I was actually thinking about that this morning.
- 29/07/2011 05:52:08 PM
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They have enough markets in the rest of the developing world and at home.
- 29/07/2011 06:23:13 PM
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the country is going to shit in a handbasket. hooray! let's all dance a jig 
- 30/07/2011 01:05:12 AM
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