Not at all; you stated exactly why I wasn't being tangential.
Joel Send a noteboard - 30/07/2011 12:47:08 PM
Look Joel, I try real hard not to criticize people about going off on tangents because I'm bad about it myself, but this is getting ridiculous and I have already asked you not to veer off and your response is to do more of it. While you have at least not thrown personal insults at me as you have others the last few days, and while there does appear to be some justification for having done that, I am not here, do not come here, and do not speak with you so that you can rant to me about how much you hate people I agree with.
The only possible way I can see your comments as applicable to what I originally posted about is if you are trying to prove me false by showing that recent public tensions aren't the byproduct of spotlight effects but rather the simple inherent evilness of the right wing. Considering your comments to others, you apparently believe that so maybe you really do view yourself as on-topic. If that is the case though, do not speak to me, as it would serve no purpose and you will not convince me that I am 'evil' and I will not disassociate myself from my ideology to change your opinion of me nor do I desire to to hear you cast insults my way. If that is not the case, than you have gone way off topic and I will say again, my point remains that politics has not gotten meaner or more partisan, and that where it has it is mostly done so from what amounts to Observer Effect. If you wish to debate that, I am happy to, if you do not, then don't reply to me on posts about it with unrelated material.
The only possible way I can see your comments as applicable to what I originally posted about is if you are trying to prove me false by showing that recent public tensions aren't the byproduct of spotlight effects but rather the simple inherent evilness of the right wing. Considering your comments to others, you apparently believe that so maybe you really do view yourself as on-topic. If that is the case though, do not speak to me, as it would serve no purpose and you will not convince me that I am 'evil' and I will not disassociate myself from my ideology to change your opinion of me nor do I desire to to hear you cast insults my way. If that is not the case, than you have gone way off topic and I will say again, my point remains that politics has not gotten meaner or more partisan, and that where it has it is mostly done so from what amounts to Observer Effect. If you wish to debate that, I am happy to, if you do not, then don't reply to me on posts about it with unrelated material.
I don't hate or think them, or anyone, "evil". I think a lot of them are dangerous radicals catering to an unstable fringe. I further think John Boehner agrees with me; it's just so vicious now he's afraid to say so publicly. I'll keep to the fiscal policy side of that since that's what we're discussing, but it's DEFINITELY applicable in OTHER areas. Rejecting radicals who share much of your ideology isn't rejecting your principles. Disgust with their rhetoric and disagreement with their ideology doesn't mean I disagree with Palin and Bachmann on 2 and 2 being 4 (though atm I'm not sure we even do math the same way... ). Keep the ideology and we'll debate policy, but dump the radicals before they bankrupt the country.
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Reid/Democrats cave, Republicans win debt ceiling debate -
25/07/2011 07:29:17 PM
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Why must it always be us against them
25/07/2011 08:12:48 PM
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Two-party system = us vs. them
25/07/2011 09:00:31 PM
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fuck you
26/07/2011 03:17:04 AM
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HA! HA! - I think I broke moondog's mind.....
26/07/2011 04:09:59 AM
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it's not about support, it's about getting *some* of what you want
26/07/2011 06:31:26 AM
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I am only getting "some" of what I want.....
26/07/2011 03:01:28 PM
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when your position is intractable, don't be surprised when people refuse to work with you
26/07/2011 03:55:28 PM
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It generally isn't
25/07/2011 09:30:36 PM
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It formerly wasn't.
25/07/2011 10:22:47 PM
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That's mostly BS
26/07/2011 12:57:26 AM
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Boehner was onboard with Obamas initial deal but cited his caucus as the reason he backed out of it.
26/07/2011 01:39:06 AM
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I'm sorry, did I mention Boehner in my message somewhere? Or the deal?
26/07/2011 03:11:40 AM
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Re: I'm sorry, did I mention Boehner in my message somewhere? Or the deal?
29/07/2011 08:26:12 AM
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Is there some lack of understanding about 'tangent' maybe?
30/07/2011 04:57:15 AM
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Not at all; you stated exactly why I wasn't being tangential.
30/07/2011 12:47:08 PM
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You're making overtly contradictory statements now, so I think we're done
31/07/2011 01:57:37 AM
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It's not just about his reelection. Can you imagine having this circus again next year?
25/07/2011 09:16:17 PM
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or he is worried that with and election coming more dems will break ranks
25/07/2011 10:00:56 PM
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Yeah, pretty much.
25/07/2011 10:12:03 PM
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Reid didn't cave as much as you might think
25/07/2011 11:58:08 PM
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I agree with that.
25/07/2011 11:59:41 PM
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to bad we have a media more interested in hyping the drama than they are in cutting through BS
26/07/2011 01:42:39 AM
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we need a law like they have in canada that you can't lie during a newscast
26/07/2011 03:58:38 PM
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Yeah, but any tax hikes, and any Dem leverage, is gone now.
26/07/2011 01:51:04 AM
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the tax cuts are set to expire on their own, they don't need to vote to cancel them.
26/07/2011 02:04:58 PM
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Yes, but they voted to extend them last winter, which you insist was the Dems fault.
27/07/2011 03:30:33 AM
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