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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). Joel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM
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You'd think Murdoch would be walking small now, guess not. Now we just need the Cato Institute to explain that Brieviks fascism OBVIOUSLY makes him liberal. And so it begins....

FOX News Resents The Norway Shooter Being Described As 'Right-Wing'

Glynnis MacNicol

Late on Friday night the New York Times ran an updated story on the terrible shootings in Norway and revealed that the alleged shooter Anders Behring Breivik had been "characterized by officials as a right-wing extremist, citing previous writings including on his Facebook page."

From that point it was merely minutes before the conservative media shifted into high gear in an attempt to push back against the description

On Friday night former Bush Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton told (a fairly reasonable) Martha MacCallum that “It's just hard to imagine one shooter could have killed 80 of these children...this kind of behavior is very un-Norwegian to say the least. And the speculation that it’s part of right-wing extremism or something like that, I think that has less of a foundation at this point, than the concern that there is a broader political threat here.”

Indeed. On Saturday The Blaze ran a comparatively subdued post questioning whether the Osla gunman could really be considered 'right-wing':

"The more one digs, the more one finds that Anders Behring Breivik holds the views of a racist, bigoted, zealot that really can’t be fit into a neat box...That’s certainly a mixed bag. And some of that information would seem to hint at a possible extreme leftist position, perhaps anarchism, would it not? It certainly doesn’t reflect the views of a conservative Christian, as he claimed to be."

Probably it's fair to say that no violent lunatic reflects the views of the group he claims to belong to.

However, as per usual, Fox & Friends takes that cake.

The network's morning show, which gave Donald Trump a regular segment during the height of his Obama birther claims, spent endless hours last summer on the outrage of the Ground Zero Mosque, and back in 2007 pushed the report that Obama was a Muslim who had attended a Madrassa (until they were forced to 'correct' it), devoted an entire segment to wondering why the media was so quick to paint Breivik as a right-wing extremist.

"Is this guy a psychopath, or is he emblematic of a huge Christian movement we've been ignoring?"

The WSJ meanwhile, thinks Breivik may have had legitimate concerns, but his alarming way of deal with it has done damage to the reputations of people with legitimate concerns about Muslims. I came to that op-ed through a tweet pondering whether the WSJ also felt Timothy McVeigh had had legitimate concerns.

Fox & Friends clip below.

Well, go figure; murdering liberals for being traitorous cultural Marxists MAKES you a liberal. Who knew? Fortunately the former American UN Ambassador ensured we stay focused on "the concern that there is a broader political threat here" rather than being distracted by "speculation" Brievik is a right wing terrorist. Most disturbing? That a US Ambassador who instrumental in US rejection of the International Criminal Court feels obliged to DEFEND not only the right but right wing EXTREMISTS by disputing, despite a mountain of evidence, that Brievik is one. That so many supposedly mainstream conservatives desperately dismiss right wing terrorism as "mere" pychopathy is a deeply alarming suggestion we DO face "a broader political threat", that Brievik was right to call himself the first of many, each disavowed by an extreme right embarrassed by their methods but in agreement with their goals. Sure, Brievik's a nut; so was Mohammed Atta, but no one suggested we should ignore those espousing his beliefs even after 911 because his terrorism was solely a product of mania unconnected to any ideology.
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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM 1335 Views
Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM* - 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM 384 Views
How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM* - 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM 381 Views
That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM 491 Views
Well said - 26/07/2011 12:11:45 PM 403 Views
Thanks. - 26/07/2011 11:46:42 PM 432 Views
Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist - 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM 441 Views
I'm not. - 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM 608 Views
funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left - 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM 493 Views
No one called him "American right" - 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM 433 Views
so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM 464 Views
They don't have to claim him. - 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM 427 Views
Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man - 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM 443 Views
I neither care nor am responsible for US media - 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM 424 Views
this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed? - 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM 402 Views
Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM 507 Views
Re: Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:46:47 PM 370 Views
just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist - 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM 421 Views
People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views. - 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM 519 Views
sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality - 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM 524 Views
I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement, - 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM 457 Views
once again I was referring to the use of the term in the US - 26/07/2011 08:30:48 PM 467 Views
Precisely. - 27/07/2011 12:00:33 AM 398 Views
I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy - 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM 410 Views
Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM 370 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2011 08:51:23 PM 319 Views
- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM 403 Views
Ignorance is bliss? - 26/07/2011 11:08:53 AM 413 Views
Sometimes - 26/07/2011 08:01:27 PM 450 Views
He says (through his lawyer) ... - 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM 473 Views
funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied - 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 413 Views
I have no idea what you're talking about. - 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM 432 Views
Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist - 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM 420 Views
Now I see what you mean. - 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM 410 Views
And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste - 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM 460 Views
I listened to that clip last night - 26/07/2011 10:26:24 AM 478 Views
Unbefuckinglievable *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:12:03 AM 350 Views
Oh, and he was also showing what a huge hypocrite he is - 26/07/2011 12:12:20 PM 489 Views
I don't want to keep saying "wow," but what else? - 26/07/2011 04:26:32 PM 414 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 01:49:02 AM 401 Views
why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid? - 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM 477 Views
+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona..... - 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM 405 Views
Really? (+edit) - 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM 368 Views
no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right - 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM 539 Views
... - 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM 543 Views
This was my point. - 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM 383 Views
so are you pulling crap out of thin air now? - 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM 487 Views
You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back. - 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM 335 Views
I may be frustrated but I think it is justified - 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM 377 Views
I'm sorry if my comment was stupid. - 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM 415 Views
I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you - 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM 409 Views
Who is "traszka"? *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:33:49 PM 384 Views
'm going to try not to be offensive here, but the way I see it - 26/07/2011 04:35:54 PM 447 Views
I don't like Fox's opinion news shows and I don't watch them - 26/07/2011 06:21:01 PM 417 Views
Gah wrong place *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:07 PM 351 Views
BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right? - 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM 376 Views
Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said? - 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM 457 Views
He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism. - 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM 457 Views
Joel you truly are unhinged so I am done *NM* - 27/07/2011 01:11:43 AM 400 Views
Fair enough. - 27/07/2011 01:17:43 AM 410 Views
Pretty funny - 26/07/2011 01:47:19 PM 473 Views
The worst shooting massacre in history is not "pretty funny". - 26/07/2011 11:33:59 PM 368 Views
You people all need to get a grip - 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM 440 Views
+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM 423 Views
Try not replying next time, then. *NM* - 26/07/2011 10:10:27 PM 402 Views
That's what I'm trying to do. - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM 454 Views
Joel you are so full of shit - 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM 382 Views
Read Joel's post title again, will you? - 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 504 Views
Oh please, Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM 450 Views
Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM 449 Views
Bullshit - 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM 452 Views
While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to - 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM 422 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 11:50:02 AM 400 Views
I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions. - 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM 450 Views
No trolling? And you include the first reply in that? - 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM 476 Views
I don't know why Traska thinks that - 27/07/2011 07:37:50 PM 509 Views
yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM* - 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM 361 Views
I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 04:00:27 PM 460 Views
Re: I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 08:09:31 PM 510 Views
extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them - 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM 498 Views
Well - 27/07/2011 04:27:25 PM 405 Views
Joel's title and Joel's post really don't have much in common - 26/07/2011 11:52:36 PM 416 Views
Not just some guest on Fox News, also Bushs UN Ambassador. - 27/07/2011 12:32:40 AM 384 Views
One of us is. - 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM 438 Views
maybe Legolas is right and you are to close to this *NM* - 27/07/2011 12:39:29 AM 366 Views
Wibble, but maybe. - 27/07/2011 01:15:31 AM 487 Views
not really have you seen the main board? not much action. - 26/07/2011 10:40:21 PM 389 Views
A suggestion - 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM 400 Views
Maybe. - 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM 522 Views
But there's a problem in all that - 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM 588 Views
O'Reilly Shreds Media for Calling Norway Terrorist 'Christian' - 27/07/2011 05:14:30 AM 544 Views
Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand - 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM 415 Views
I blame nested threads. - 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM 505 Views