Actually, I believe the polls regularly showing Romney ahead of Obama now.
Joel Send a noteboard - 14/07/2011 09:30:01 PM
I don't think it'll last; getting nominated will force him to shore up deep vulnerabilities on his right and embrace things like the Ryan budget, and his insulation from such insanity is why he's eking out a lead over Obama now.
The Republicans supposed values are irreconcilably conflicted here: They can reduce the deficit or avoid tax increases, but they CANNOT do both. Refusing to realize or at least admit that isn't principled, it's dangerously irrational. Oh, and what commitment to principle does McConnell handing Obama Congress' Constitutional power of the purse represent? It's not exactly "the buck stops here" but then, the President who had that on his desk was a Democrat. Another line of his may apply here: "I don't give 'em hell, I give 'em the truth and they THINK it's hell. "
So do you accept the wisdom of the masses when it doesn't meet your own little particular view of the world? Another way to read this is unlike the spineless dems who check a poll before they give an opinion republicans stand by their values. That is a little unfair I admit since "do what makes me feel good" is the only value dems they actually do stand by it.
The Republicans supposed values are irreconcilably conflicted here: They can reduce the deficit or avoid tax increases, but they CANNOT do both. Refusing to realize or at least admit that isn't principled, it's dangerously irrational. Oh, and what commitment to principle does McConnell handing Obama Congress' Constitutional power of the purse represent? It's not exactly "the buck stops here" but then, the President who had that on his desk was a Democrat. Another line of his may apply here: "I don't give 'em hell, I give 'em the truth and they THINK it's hell. "
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Debt Ceiling Debacle: Are Republican Leaders Spinelessly Selfish, or Cluelessly Selfish?
14/07/2011 04:57:30 PM
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funny how people only believe polls that say what they want to hear
14/07/2011 06:08:21 PM
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Actually, I believe the polls regularly showing Romney ahead of Obama now.
14/07/2011 09:30:01 PM
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watch out you almost made rational argument there
15/07/2011 02:47:02 PM
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Watch out, you completely ignored my arguments there.
15/07/2011 04:20:44 PM
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Didn't Obama sign the tax cuts we are operating under now? He deserves some credit for that
15/07/2011 07:16:14 PM
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Actually, I agree; granting the Republicans demands does make him partly culpable.
15/07/2011 09:33:50 PM
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I have yet to hear anything about any actual proposal
14/07/2011 06:23:16 PM
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I think you have to be there to get a detailed spreadsheet, but the general terms are known.
14/07/2011 08:36:39 PM
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Your entire response is lacking actual answers.
15/07/2011 03:42:04 AM
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There were answers, just very general ones; the specifics aren't being publicly released.
15/07/2011 04:19:47 AM
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That kind of headline doesn't really help, you know?
14/07/2011 06:33:43 PM
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I second this. Definitely need less antagonism *NM*
14/07/2011 07:36:54 PM
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I admit I too readily meet antagonism with antagonism these days.
14/07/2011 09:56:45 PM
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"I have no idea what we're talking about, but my opinion is important anyway!"
14/07/2011 09:03:10 PM
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just because you believe the silly rhetoric doens't mean it isn't rhetoric *NM*
14/07/2011 09:27:08 PM
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I can't think of anything else to call it.
14/07/2011 09:17:42 PM
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I just think that you could have said all that in a much more less antagonistic way.
14/07/2011 10:16:49 PM
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I do see your point, but it often takes a shock for people to question reflexive views.
14/07/2011 10:53:07 PM
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it is selfish to demand tax increases to allow needed spending reductions *NM*
15/07/2011 02:48:11 PM
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It's shamefully selfish to demand others sacrifice their existence for your luxury.
15/07/2011 04:14:04 PM
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that woulkd be shameful thank god it isnothing but rhetoric *NM*
15/07/2011 07:17:44 PM
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It's the simple sad truth.
15/07/2011 09:36:34 PM
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so if it was your family you'd only cut expenses and not find a way to make extra income?
15/07/2011 07:45:21 PM
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if you think silly comparison to family budget are valid then you need to ask yourself that question *NM*
17/07/2011 06:51:06 PM
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And you haven't even gotten into the cries for a "balanced budget amendment."
14/07/2011 09:17:04 PM
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I think they're doing exactly what the people who paid to put them into office are expecting them to
14/07/2011 09:23:45 PM
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Sadly, that's so, I just keep expecting them to put the countrys survival ahead of greed.
14/07/2011 09:38:14 PM
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You know, if I pretended like I didn't have a family to support, I'd say, "Fuck it. Default."
15/07/2011 03:50:30 AM
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Maybe you can't be that cavalier, but the House majority clearly can.
15/07/2011 04:56:03 AM
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these are the same tax increases that were extended by the dems
15/07/2011 02:49:35 PM
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EDIT: Wait, I get it now; you're just trolling me.
15/07/2011 04:14:00 PM
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no I am just pointing out simple facts but your partisan blinders refuse to allow you to see them
15/07/2011 07:22:03 PM
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Republicans didn't just "support" tax cuts: They demanded them then and won't relinquish them now.
15/07/2011 09:58:37 PM
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Did the Mitch McConnel thing remind anyone else of Jar Jar Binks appearing before the Senate...
15/07/2011 07:38:52 AM
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It probably would have if I didn't do everything I could to avoid thinking of Jar Jar Binks *NM*
15/07/2011 11:20:09 AM
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Clueless only in the sense that they aren't heeding the signals of their owners.
17/07/2011 06:46:42 AM
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Coaches have to do things fans dislike to win games, or get fired anyway when they lose.
17/07/2011 04:11:38 PM
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