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We're gonna have to pick this up another time Isaac Send a noteboard - 01/07/2011 04:37:25 AM
... and I only had a chance to skim that, hopefully get a chance to read it through tomorrow but definitely won't have a chance to give a proper reply for days and as I mentioned to Helene, I feel it's probably time to let this thread die anyway, so even if I get a chance to reply I'll probably Noteboard you instead so I don't irritate anyone by dumping this thread back to the top of the heap in 4 or 5 days. If nothing else though, it has been an interesting conversation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Good. *NM* Camilla - 25/06/2011 07:40:52 AM 378 Views
Re: Federalism is so fucking slow. *NM* Gaps - 25/06/2011 02:47:11 PM 213 Views
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There are two reasons, depending on ones position on the issue. Joel - 25/06/2011 06:04:27 PM 563 Views
Meh, you never know. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:58:37 AM 654 Views
so in your only Catholics are really married? random thoughts - 26/06/2011 12:04:07 AM 513 Views
Church Doctrine. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:57:39 AM 640 Views
That is simply not true Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:20:59 AM 564 Views
Yes it is. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:14:29 PM 592 Views
That's patently wrong in that Orthodox weddings are explicitly recognized by the Church. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:42:00 PM 533 Views
Yeah okay... Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:16:05 PM 566 Views
They are outside of the authority of Rome, and have, on occasion, excommunicated Popes. Dannymac - 27/06/2011 05:03:31 PM 539 Views
Are you sure about this? Camilla - 30/06/2011 04:47:57 PM 422 Views
Dragonsoul is wrong Roland00 - 01/07/2011 09:21:43 AM 569 Views
Glad to hear it. *NM* Legolas - 25/06/2011 04:05:15 PM 211 Views
Seems fine to me Isaac - 25/06/2011 05:44:30 PM 501 Views
Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 25/06/2011 09:37:28 PM 637 Views
Direct democracy is the only true democracy. *NM* Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 01:01:26 AM 222 Views
Sometimes it is grand not being a True Scottsman *NM* Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:21:49 AM 209 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:11:06 AM 584 Views
Good luck telling that to the deeply religious right. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:20:04 AM 489 Views
I am a deeply religious member of the right, and I tell them that all the time *NM* Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:30:14 AM 221 Views
Then you're a rare person. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:36:11 AM 221 Views
After a number of years of gay marriage Helene - 26/06/2011 06:57:07 AM 470 Views
That's more or less true of virtually everything, not a great example Isaac - 26/06/2011 07:09:03 AM 507 Views
People shouldn't turn their own religion and/or opinion into law Helene - 28/06/2011 07:33:48 PM 502 Views
I don't recall mentioning religion beyond confirming that I was religious Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:22:51 PM 539 Views
I admit I wasn't replying to you directly Helene - 29/06/2011 07:20:10 AM 496 Views
I think you should give this subject a bit more thought Isaac - 29/06/2011 02:16:04 PM 537 Views
I'll address the bulk of this later Helene - 29/06/2011 07:58:48 PM 422 Views
Believing things without strong supporting evidence is not rational. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:11:33 AM 602 Views
Requiring different degrees of proof for things isn't particularly rational Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:14:44 PM 673 Views
I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 07:43:51 PM 1047 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Isaac - 30/06/2011 08:59:00 PM 682 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 09:47:30 PM 945 Views
We're gonna have to pick this up another time Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:37:25 AM 512 Views
No, I used the word irrational to mean that it's not rational. Helene - 30/06/2011 09:12:19 PM 526 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:32:44 AM 576 Views
Btw, in case you were wondering, I do like you Helene - 01/07/2011 02:17:42 PM 576 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/06/2011 10:38:56 PM 672 Views
I think you should give your fellow citizens a bit more trust and respect Isaac - 27/06/2011 05:41:52 PM 470 Views
I'm all for occasionally forcing stuff down people's throats... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2011 11:44:12 AM 463 Views
My expectations are guided by psychology and history. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/06/2011 07:08:06 PM 577 Views
That's good to know, most of us do that, though we usually just call it common sense and experience Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:55:23 PM 621 Views
No, most people don't do that. Reasoning from cognitive biases and anecdotes is much more common. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:18:40 AM 529 Views
Perhaps, you seem to be claiming not do that yourself though Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:40:57 PM 621 Views
Empire State Building was lit up in rainbow colors, looked cool *NM* beetnemesis - 25/06/2011 08:21:03 PM 229 Views
Good. *NM* ironclad - 25/06/2011 11:41:30 PM 201 Views
I approved that years ago. They are way behind. Granted, I have no authority over anyone... TaskmasterJack - 26/06/2011 12:22:33 AM 408 Views
So, fifth time is a charm? everynametaken - 26/06/2011 06:38:26 AM 619 Views
The real issue is going to be when the Supreme Court rules on the full faith and credit clause. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:43:23 PM 514 Views
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