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I admit I wasn't replying to you directly Helene Send a noteboard - 29/06/2011 07:20:10 AM
I was really tired and didn't feel like debating the point.

You're right that people can get used to the worst things, if it continues for long enough. So it's not an argument in favor of allowing gay marriage. However, I also don't think there's any valid argument against gay marriage.

Yes, most law systems are based on religions, because most societies were dominated by the church(es). However, we now live in societies where there's a separation between states and religion (thankfully). So it's about time to get rid of those laws that are based solely on something written in a book 2000 years ago (or another amount of over 1000 years), and have no other merit. Just because there are people who manage to believe such things (and yes, it's beyond me how any rational person could actually believe in such things), doesn't mean they get to tell other people that they can't do something that doesn't harm anyone (except for themselves, if you believe it would harm them).
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