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I don't recall mentioning religion beyond confirming that I was religious Isaac Send a noteboard - 28/06/2011 08:22:51 PM
It always bugs the heck out of me when people take what sounds like well-rehearsed arguments and direct them at me. It's also an old and silly talking point, religion, tradition, etc are at the core of every legal system that's ever existed. The reason I think it's a rehearsed argument is because you're busy trying to lecture are committed gay rights supporter on the importance of gay rights because that person said they think it's optimal to pass these things in straight up or down votes by the populace. I find it kind of bewildering to defend my commitment to democracy and personal liberty.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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New York Senate approves same-sex marriage Dominic - 25/06/2011 03:47:43 AM 1222 Views
Good. *NM* Camilla - 25/06/2011 07:40:52 AM 405 Views
Re: Federalism is so fucking slow. *NM* Gaps - 25/06/2011 02:47:11 PM 243 Views
I'm actually not opposed to this. Dragonsoul - 25/06/2011 03:48:32 PM 588 Views
Makes sense to me. Joel - 25/06/2011 04:00:07 PM 776 Views
I'm not sure why there was even any need for such explicit protection. Legolas - 25/06/2011 04:04:47 PM 581 Views
There are two reasons, depending on ones position on the issue. Joel - 25/06/2011 06:04:27 PM 632 Views
Meh, you never know. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:58:37 AM 727 Views
so in your only Catholics are really married? random thoughts - 26/06/2011 12:04:07 AM 583 Views
Church Doctrine. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:57:39 AM 709 Views
That is simply not true Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:20:59 AM 642 Views
Yes it is. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:14:29 PM 660 Views
That's patently wrong in that Orthodox weddings are explicitly recognized by the Church. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:42:00 PM 605 Views
Yeah okay... Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:16:05 PM 645 Views
They are outside of the authority of Rome, and have, on occasion, excommunicated Popes. Dannymac - 27/06/2011 05:03:31 PM 618 Views
Are you sure about this? Camilla - 30/06/2011 04:47:57 PM 502 Views
Dragonsoul is wrong Roland00 - 01/07/2011 09:21:43 AM 654 Views
Glad to hear it. *NM* Legolas - 25/06/2011 04:05:15 PM 227 Views
Seems fine to me Isaac - 25/06/2011 05:44:30 PM 576 Views
Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 25/06/2011 09:37:28 PM 711 Views
Direct democracy is the only true democracy. *NM* Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 01:01:26 AM 247 Views
Sometimes it is grand not being a True Scottsman *NM* Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:21:49 AM 237 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:11:06 AM 656 Views
Good luck telling that to the deeply religious right. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:20:04 AM 572 Views
I am a deeply religious member of the right, and I tell them that all the time *NM* Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:30:14 AM 247 Views
Then you're a rare person. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:36:11 AM 248 Views
After a number of years of gay marriage Helene - 26/06/2011 06:57:07 AM 556 Views
That's more or less true of virtually everything, not a great example Isaac - 26/06/2011 07:09:03 AM 575 Views
People shouldn't turn their own religion and/or opinion into law Helene - 28/06/2011 07:33:48 PM 570 Views
I don't recall mentioning religion beyond confirming that I was religious Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:22:51 PM 612 Views
I admit I wasn't replying to you directly Helene - 29/06/2011 07:20:10 AM 574 Views
I think you should give this subject a bit more thought Isaac - 29/06/2011 02:16:04 PM 617 Views
I'll address the bulk of this later Helene - 29/06/2011 07:58:48 PM 495 Views
Believing things without strong supporting evidence is not rational. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:11:33 AM 675 Views
Requiring different degrees of proof for things isn't particularly rational Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:14:44 PM 742 Views
I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 07:43:51 PM 1139 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Isaac - 30/06/2011 08:59:00 PM 750 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 09:47:30 PM 1020 Views
We're gonna have to pick this up another time Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:37:25 AM 586 Views
No, I used the word irrational to mean that it's not rational. Helene - 30/06/2011 09:12:19 PM 601 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:32:44 AM 645 Views
Btw, in case you were wondering, I do like you Helene - 01/07/2011 02:17:42 PM 652 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/06/2011 10:38:56 PM 754 Views
I think you should give your fellow citizens a bit more trust and respect Isaac - 27/06/2011 05:41:52 PM 548 Views
I'm all for occasionally forcing stuff down people's throats... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2011 11:44:12 AM 543 Views
My expectations are guided by psychology and history. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/06/2011 07:08:06 PM 656 Views
That's good to know, most of us do that, though we usually just call it common sense and experience Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:55:23 PM 685 Views
No, most people don't do that. Reasoning from cognitive biases and anecdotes is much more common. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:18:40 AM 595 Views
Perhaps, you seem to be claiming not do that yourself though Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:40:57 PM 691 Views
Empire State Building was lit up in rainbow colors, looked cool *NM* beetnemesis - 25/06/2011 08:21:03 PM 256 Views
Good. *NM* ironclad - 25/06/2011 11:41:30 PM 233 Views
I approved that years ago. They are way behind. Granted, I have no authority over anyone... TaskmasterJack - 26/06/2011 12:22:33 AM 479 Views
So, fifth time is a charm? everynametaken - 26/06/2011 06:38:26 AM 694 Views
The real issue is going to be when the Supreme Court rules on the full faith and credit clause. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:43:23 PM 585 Views
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