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If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. Legolas Send a noteboard - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM
I have no problem with trying to work a bit here and there as part of being a responsible sex partner, but most guys don't say, "Oh wow, this girl is uptight. That will be a fun project." They say, "I don't have the time for that. I'm moving on."

But in a relationship of which sex is only one aspect, however important an aspect, they might find the effort is worth their while.
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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3152 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 937 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1215 Views
A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women - 12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM 1153 Views
Funny - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1126 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 893 Views
Oh My - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 945 Views
*giggle* - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 965 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 427 Views
Bee? - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 929 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 890 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 471 Views
What isn't fair? - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1094 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 493 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 895 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1030 Views
But it makes me feel good - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 903 Views
I'm not a hedonist - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1060 Views
So indignant! - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1062 Views
I don't believe that at all. - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1042 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 514 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1002 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1008 Views
Oh how clever of you! - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1097 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1023 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1100 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 377 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 903 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 485 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 973 Views
Be good, Ana. - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 753 Views
You may be mistaken. - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 982 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 878 Views
I am introspecting, yes. - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 882 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1040 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1033 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1068 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 383 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 503 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1075 Views
I'm glad you're in here. - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1025 Views
Seconded *NM* - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 449 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 839 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 903 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 838 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 875 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1397 Views
So, which women are better than American women? - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1045 Views
Re: Haha - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 941 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1042 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 928 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 965 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 788 Views
Who are you, again? - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 780 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1110 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1009 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1004 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 973 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 988 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 779 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1082 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1037 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 884 Views
I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 954 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 852 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1042 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1049 Views
You're not American either. *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 337 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1024 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 423 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 365 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 346 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1030 Views
I said there were exceptions. - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 886 Views
True. - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 859 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 827 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 486 Views
I agree. - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 991 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1072 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 946 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1029 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1082 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1001 Views
That's a good point! *NM* - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 470 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1075 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 763 Views
It's funny - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1151 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1049 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1067 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 960 Views
THIS *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 453 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1047 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 954 Views
You and your friends? - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 931 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 749 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 939 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1051 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1004 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1109 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 532 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1028 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 886 Views
THIS. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 430 Views
I was going to say the same. - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1073 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 839 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 975 Views
You think you're offending me? - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 984 Views
No. - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1012 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 802 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 877 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1050 Views
Let's cut the sophistry - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1039 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 912 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 970 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1011 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 915 Views
I don't think it works at all. - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 886 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1151 Views
I don't think so. - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 905 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 360 Views
Oddly enough, I do too - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1003 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 853 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 935 Views
Right - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 915 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1023 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1023 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 644 Views
A moment - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 885 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 889 Views
But you started it. - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 957 Views
I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 932 Views
You should have quit before this. - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1008 Views
No, I shouldn't have. - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 945 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 906 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 847 Views
This really made me laugh - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 919 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 826 Views
Yes, we do! - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1015 Views
Having now looked over the smileys - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 994 Views
See what I'm talking about? - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 914 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 464 Views
I try *NM* - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 452 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1134 Views
You didn't read the list very well. - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 956 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 910 Views
No problems. - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 852 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 959 Views
It just requires more preparation. - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1323 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 929 Views
I agree - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 845 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 790 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1017 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 819 Views
Eh - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1024 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1034 Views
This. *NM* - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 499 Views
No I didn't. - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 934 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1140 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 733 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 953 Views
As is yours. *NM* - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 342 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 452 Views
So you say. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 439 Views
Question - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 939 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 867 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 895 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 818 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 926 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 965 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 923 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1125 Views
Seriously? - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 944 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 928 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 745 Views
That's really awful. - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1026 Views
Of course. - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 785 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 452 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1039 Views
Your way out of line - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 828 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 788 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1117 Views
I read this. - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1008 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 980 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1012 Views
I appreciate the support, - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 983 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 988 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 322 Views
Why not? - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 892 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 711 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1041 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1009 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1059 Views
On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 932 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 964 Views
Bummer *NM* - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 428 Views
TMJ is right. - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 995 Views
Re: TMJ is right. - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1058 Views
Yes. - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 873 Views
Re: Yes. - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 808 Views
Gee thanks. - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1253 Views
Didn't suit you. - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1002 Views
On a totally unrelated note... - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 948 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 441 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 328 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 871 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 335 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 489 Views
Your winning personality? - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 964 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 895 Views
Nice name new. - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 918 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 422 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1014 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 482 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1001 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1054 Views
[something less snarky] - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1090 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1049 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1006 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1024 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 458 Views
my turn: what? - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1066 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1030 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1125 Views
To quote Cat Valente: - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 851 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 965 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 949 Views
No, more like not similar enough - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 971 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 989 Views
True - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 813 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1063 Views
Job. Always a job matter. - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1113 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 887 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 953 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 806 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1032 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 936 Views
It started there here: - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1003 Views
Tom made an untenable comment - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 910 Views
Book clubs are scary places - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 727 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1038 Views
Maybe without the wine? - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 912 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 938 Views
I didn't mean you... - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 934 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 975 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 328 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 517 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 991 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1049 Views
Oh yeah. - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1025 Views
- 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1023 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 996 Views
that was funny *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 331 Views
Bad porn is the worst! - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 848 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 928 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1251 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1035 Views
That could be a major part of it - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 884 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 443 Views

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