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Re: And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. callandor1000 Send a noteboard - 11/05/2011 02:52:45 PM
9/11 was 10 years ago. About half of those teenagers were too young to pay attention or understand when it occurred, and how many teenagers pay attention to the news?

Even if I give them a pass on 911 (and it's not like we stopped talking about on 912; this is, as we're so often told, a "post 911 world", after all ;)) bin Laden and Al Qaeda didn't cease to be relevant that day. That began widespread public awareness of them, it didn't end it, or shouldn't have. Not when they were still out there plotting our deaths, not when there was an attempted attack in the US just 18 months ago. That may just be preoccupied youth, but it's not youthful disinterest in "history", recent or otherwise, it's youthful disinterest in a large, well trained and well financed group actively seeking their deaths, and the man who, until last weekend, funded, inspired and led them. Good news for Iman Al Zawahiri now; best place for him to hide out and avoid capture is probably a US high scool full of people as contemptuous of their parents priorities as he is. :rolleyes:

Wow. You are sounding like a nut. For realsies. For realsies. Have you ever once stopped to consider that just because someone searched for the term "who is osama bin laden" that they might indeed know who he is, but not much else? Further, kids are busy themselves, especially in that age group. Not just with social lives, but with school, sports and jobs. They may know his one most infamous act but you know, it says to me, that those kids are interested in knowing more than just what happened on 9/11.

And your last bit made you sound like a stupid fuck. Just a heads up.

Again, a question indicating general ignorance indicates general ignorance; it's pretty straight forward. I wouldn't start additional research on the subject by asking Yahoo "what is television?" precisely because I have at least a basic familiarity with the subject; any additional research would be to augment that basic familiarity, not recap it. The last statement was sarcasm, as indicated by the smiley, though if general ignorance of Al Qaedas leadership is as widespread as the Yahoo searches suggest it may not be far from the truth even so.

I don't even know where to begin to reply to you. You spew forth "dumb". You take the topic, give an irrelevant answer and thought process in a way that suits your needs and calls an orange an apple. Wow. Just wow. Now I remember why I've been ignoring you for the better part of two years and been ignoring anything you touch that long...

How was my answer or thought process irrelevant? The only question you posed was
Have you ever once stopped to consider that just because someone searched for the term "who is osama bin laden" that they might indeed know who he is, but not much else?

which I answered
Again, a question indicating general ignorance indicates general ignorance; it's pretty straight forward. I wouldn't start additional research on the subject by asking Yahoo "what is television?" precisely because I have at least a basic familiarity with the subject; any additional research would be to augment that basic familiarity, not recap it.

If that's not explicit enough, yes, I considered that someone might ask the most general possible question about bin Laden despite knowing who he is--for about half a second. Then I concluded most people with minimal knowledge would ask a question based on that rather than a completely ignorant one. That's my answer, and the illustrative thought process you directly asked for (thus it's doubly relevant). If you think it presumptuous, fine, but being presumptuous in turn, to the point of dismissing a direct answer to a direct question as "irrelevant", is hypocritical. By your reasoning you have no right to speculate on mine (and no need after I tell you outright), so if you want your click back *gestures at cyberspace* you're welcome to it. :)


What completely off is that you're treating the internet like real life. Thats always the hole in most of your useless responses. When googling or yahooing, searching for things through search engines, there are appropriate wordings to use to find the most about a person. "who is blah-blah" is often quite useful. Thats one of the phrases encouraged in high school computer classes and when they teach you to research things. It generally turns up a good variety of information. This is because the computer isn't a person.

Your mom. That's right. The cat is out of the bag. Your mom.

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I agree. *NM* Panorphaeon - 09/05/2011 10:36:40 PM 578 Views
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How is it the kids' fault that they are not taught (to care) about recent history? *NM* Helene - 04/05/2011 06:54:16 AM 475 Views
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Good enough for me, thanks. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:59:40 AM 895 Views
Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM 999 Views
Good teachers don't allow overeager students to monopolize the classroom. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 02:52:27 AM 1020 Views
We covered the material. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:57:52 AM 1035 Views
Which means... not a good teacher. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 07:02:44 AM 815 Views
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If they don't know about the terrorist organisation to begin with, why would they self educate? Helene - 13/05/2011 08:06:07 AM 886 Views
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What?!? There are terrorists roaming the US, killing kids in their beds?!? Helene - 14/05/2011 07:45:27 AM 1006 Views
They're certainly trying. Joel - 14/05/2011 10:43:48 AM 915 Views
Oklahoma city bombing was by American citizens, completely unrelated to Al Qaeda... Helene - 15/05/2011 08:02:11 AM 1103 Views
They were both terrorist attacks. Joel - 15/05/2011 02:53:51 PM 1041 Views
Obesity is a much bigger killer than terrorists Helene - 15/05/2011 04:01:51 PM 887 Views
Sure, but obesity covers a lot of ground. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:19:51 PM 906 Views
Obesity is a new problem Helene - 15/05/2011 06:09:33 PM 908 Views
I gave you my explanation, but can reiterate it. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:00:03 PM 964 Views
For god's sake... I didn't attribute all of obesity to sugar addiction. Helene - 15/05/2011 08:10:44 PM 784 Views
No, you blamed advertising and bad schools, too. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:20:32 PM 857 Views
That's because you are incredibly annoying and I am wondering if you will ever not reply Helene - 15/05/2011 08:26:12 PM 932 Views
An odd reason to stereotype the third most populous nation on Earth. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:52:57 PM 900 Views
only about a third of the home schooled kids are home schooled for religious reasons random thoughts - 16/05/2011 09:35:36 PM 989 Views
Fair enough... I can imagine wanting to avoid a crappy school. Helene - 17/05/2011 06:04:11 PM 892 Views
getting your kid in the right school can be a challenge random thoughts - 17/05/2011 06:18:04 PM 778 Views
how many times have i told you "it's the internet, it's not real life"?? *NM* moondog - 04/05/2011 07:43:01 AM 504 Views
Sure, but in this case they intersect. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:02:19 AM 953 Views
I met a lady who didn't know who Justin Bieber was. I told her I was very impressed random thoughts - 04/05/2011 06:49:49 PM 969 Views
You should be? Joel - 06/05/2011 02:09:47 AM 993 Views
He may have been dreaming about killing them but he was actually doing anything *NM* random thoughts - 06/05/2011 03:09:49 AM 533 Views
The short answer is "yes". Joel - 06/05/2011 03:19:31 AM 872 Views
you would of have had to know who he is to know he was doing that though *NM* random thoughts - 08/05/2011 06:16:39 PM 455 Views
Yes, and the fact he WAS doing that is why I expected nearly everyone to know who he was. Joel - 08/05/2011 07:12:41 PM 900 Views
I am not saying they shouldn't know who he is just that is isn't that shocking that some don't random thoughts - 09/05/2011 02:35:02 PM 768 Views
I get that, it's the size of the "some" that kinda floors me. Joel - 09/05/2011 05:02:46 PM 889 Views
Rumsfeld was a bit of a tool but he was right about a lot of stuff random thoughts - 09/05/2011 05:05:56 PM 830 Views
I did think he took heat unfairly for that comment; he's an interesting figure. Joel - 09/05/2011 05:59:58 PM 996 Views
see that is why political comedy isn't really comedy random thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:15:48 PM 852 Views
He was a college offensive lineman. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:47:52 AM 928 Views
It was the media tqaking offense not just internet nutjobs random thoughts - 13/05/2011 04:16:34 AM 1002 Views
You're "the media" now? Joel - 13/05/2011 10:27:42 PM 1009 Views
you live in a fantasy world *NM* random thoughts - 16/05/2011 02:27:20 PM 465 Views
Not a rebuttal. Joel - 16/05/2011 09:10:33 PM 900 Views
I am trying to be more concise and that summed it up *NM* random thoughts - 16/05/2011 09:26:32 PM 467 Views
Concise is nice, but that response was solely about me rather than my arguments. Joel - 18/05/2011 11:30:38 PM 873 Views
No it was about your reply I am just to lazy to break it down random thoughts - 19/05/2011 12:54:38 AM 814 Views
"You live in a fantasy world" is 100% about me. Joel - 19/05/2011 01:53:07 AM 710 Views
OK *NM* random thoughts - 19/05/2011 03:15:04 PM 422 Views
Check. Joel - 20/05/2011 12:08:24 AM 1163 Views
13-17 year olds. Kronin al'Sulc - 05/05/2011 01:51:27 AM 1082 Views
Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:53:26 AM 907 Views
Re: Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. callandor1000 - 06/05/2011 09:21:10 PM 967 Views
As I asked below, did you click the link? Joel - 06/05/2011 11:35:45 PM 778 Views
Re: As I asked below, did you click the link? callandor1000 - 09/05/2011 05:37:29 AM 806 Views
And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. Joel - 09/05/2011 07:50:32 AM 1086 Views
Re: And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. callandor1000 - 11/05/2011 02:52:45 PM 1067 Views
Well, based on the consensus, I can't really argue with that first line. Joel - 11/05/2011 11:33:53 PM 970 Views
well then, let us who've somewhat recently been educated as to internet searches assure you... LadyLorraine - 11/05/2011 11:41:54 PM 834 Views
Educated about how to conduct them, or how they ARE conducted? Joel - 12/05/2011 01:13:25 AM 862 Views
Re: Educated about how to conduct them, or how they ARE conducted? callandor1000 - 12/05/2011 04:50:23 AM 864 Views
So we're back to criticizing claims of superiority I've never made? Joel - 14/05/2011 07:06:10 AM 1131 Views
Thanks for the mis-analogizing. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/05/2011 06:26:40 AM 1282 Views
Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Joel - 10/05/2011 07:02:31 AM 897 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/05/2011 04:58:59 PM 928 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:22:38 AM 862 Views
Re: 13-17 year olds. callandor1000 - 06/05/2011 09:14:47 PM 887 Views
What are you doing to earn a living now? *NM* Urza - 05/05/2011 03:04:28 AM 485 Views
Jeg øver norsk, men ikke mer nå. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:54:44 AM 864 Views
Debt collection is kind Urza - 06/05/2011 07:16:53 AM 840 Views
Just don't repeatedly say you're seriously buying tickets to come kill them. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:40:51 PM 806 Views
Theres a reason you're banned from skype chat. Dont be a cunt Urza - 07/05/2011 02:22:30 AM 857 Views
You threadjacked me to take a potshot, so I don't want to hear it. Joel - 07/05/2011 03:57:47 AM 925 Views
it must be a very good reason if they haven't banned you as well random thoughts - 09/05/2011 05:09:07 PM 851 Views
Joel decided it would be fun to blackmail us with filing a false poilce report. *NM* Urza - 10/05/2011 12:07:46 AM 510 Views
I sent Skype the log; they said to contact the police. Joel - 10/05/2011 03:54:51 AM 1008 Views
Re: I sent Skype the log; they said to contact the police. Camilla - 15/05/2011 11:55:23 AM 838 Views
I think most of the relevant details have been covered here. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:06:09 PM 941 Views
Silly laptops.... *NM* Joel - 15/05/2011 04:11:38 PM 496 Views
Now I am certainly not going into skype chat. Camilla - 17/05/2011 10:36:04 AM 837 Views
Can't say I blame you, but that's always a possibility online. Joel - 17/05/2011 05:07:23 PM 835 Views
Re: Can't say I blame you, but that's always a possibility online. Novo - 19/05/2011 12:59:14 AM 1103 Views
For people who categorically objected to all bans of any kind ya'll embraced them very abruptly. Joel - 19/05/2011 01:50:26 AM 1254 Views
You failed to respond to the main thrust of my argument, but, whatevs. Novo - 19/05/2011 03:01:07 AM 883 Views
I did, but will try again; then I'm done with this subject and rebutting Adams false accusations. Joel - 19/05/2011 03:51:24 AM 795 Views
I joked to Roh "If I kill him will you be my alibi... Great, I'm pricing tickets on travelocity now! Urza - 17/05/2011 12:02:28 AM 928 Views
That sounds ridiculous. *NM* Helene - 17/05/2011 06:06:39 PM 460 Views
When did I ask for attention, niceness or an apology? Joel - 18/05/2011 11:28:12 PM 935 Views
It is nice to see even without chat the chat drama still seems to bleed into the main pages *NM* random thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:17:11 PM 528 Views
And that is your analysis? Really. Kids sure are dumb to ask questions and do research. Vivien - 06/05/2011 10:15:41 PM 799 Views
I wish there were an applause smiley. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 11:02:01 PM 882 Views
No, but any kid whose research beings by finding out who he even WAS is dumb, period. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:31:08 PM 857 Views
Any kid whos research doesnt start by finding out who he was must have been born with the knowledge. Urza - 06/05/2011 11:39:56 PM 994 Views
Finding out, yes; finding out by actively searching, no. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:42:34 PM 870 Views
You and I turned on CNN one morning to see the WTC burning. *NM* Urza - 07/05/2011 02:05:26 AM 522 Views
Again I cite the attempted "Christmas bombing" in 2009. Joel - 07/05/2011 04:01:27 AM 861 Views
Any rational person wouldn't do a yahoo search. Other than that, the questions you posed are Helene - 15/05/2011 11:28:02 AM 809 Views
So their search engine makes them dumb, but their questions are OK. Joel - 15/05/2011 02:57:27 PM 786 Views
By gods, you are hopeless to talk to. *NM* Helene - 15/05/2011 03:56:27 PM 464 Views
I repeat, one of us certainly is. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:20:07 PM 925 Views
If you learned people are sometimes flippant Helene - 15/05/2011 06:13:52 PM 859 Views
I'm sometimes flippant, too, but have always been adherent of Poes Law. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:11:04 PM 805 Views
So quipping that rational people wouldn´t use a certain search engine is really about terrorism?!? Helene - 15/05/2011 08:14:59 PM 848 Views
Terrorism, and knowledge of it, was the subject of the thread. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:38:35 PM 906 Views
I don't think the article says much of anything at all. Dan - 07/05/2011 03:28:35 AM 762 Views
Maybe; I don't always appreciate deadpan jokes online.... Joel - 07/05/2011 03:43:51 AM 959 Views
I think the linguistic conventions governing search engines and typical conversation differ is all. Dan - 07/05/2011 04:00:38 AM 844 Views
Hopefully that's all it is. Joel - 07/05/2011 04:17:21 AM 819 Views
actually, search engines are getting better towards "questions" now LadyLorraine - 11/05/2011 11:06:42 PM 800 Views
Fair enough then, if surprising; objection withdrawn. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:17:28 AM 949 Views
I think you're reading too much into this Isaac - 10/05/2011 12:58:20 AM 910 Views
Possibly; I really hope so. Joel - 10/05/2011 04:01:50 AM 823 Views
Re: Possibly; I really hope so. Isaac - 10/05/2011 05:18:43 AM 925 Views
Again, fair enough. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:52:07 AM 871 Views
Re: Again, fair enough. Isaac - 12/05/2011 02:04:53 AM 902 Views
Acknowledged. Joel - 12/05/2011 02:41:38 AM 873 Views
HA! Vivien - 12/05/2011 10:50:50 PM 1083 Views
Re: I'm more disgusted by this thread than by its original topic of conversation. *NM* Gaps - 15/05/2011 09:41:43 PM 495 Views
Just as well; I conceded on the original topic ages ago. Joel - 15/05/2011 11:10:20 PM 806 Views
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