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I did consider that possibility, yes. Joel Send a noteboard - 10/05/2011 02:24:02 AM
And so the result is not reflective of site participation...

While the poll gives data, there is no idea of how accurate that data is nor what it really shows.

It's not perfect, but it's not deeply flawed either; the biggest drawback is probably that it's only up for one day, but with 150 votes I'm not sure how big a factor that is. It would be better if weren't possible to vote once while logged out and again when logged in (perhaps Quick Poll voting should, like posting, require a login to ensure no one gets more than one vote). I doubt that's a huge factor though 'cos I can't imagine an attempt at mass Quick Poll rigging (conspiracy111 (8 ). I'm not privy to all the site traffic stats, but unless a lot of unregistered non-members are voting 150 votes is about 25% of the people who've ever posted on the CMB. That includes wotmaniacs who left in the first weeks, those who've left since, newbs who didn't stay, and the odd half dozen snoops. :P If there's site traffic showing that many registered users logging in on any average day maybe those 150 people aren't a representative sample, but I suspect that's not the case, though of course I can't be certain.

Ultimately, your premise boils down to whether you think WoT fans are disproportionately more likely than wotmaniacs and RAFOlk to vote in the Quick Poll, and my bet is the reverse is true. The logic holds either way: TODAY, WoT has a big footprint in the world of speculative fiction, and RAFO has uncommon access to resources for exploiting that current trend to its benefit. Down the road RAFO will need a primary focus that is NOT WoT, just as WoT sites will, but WoT offers what ought to be a welcome opportunity to develop the sustainable, uniquely RAFO (i.e. not former wotmania) community to reach that point in the road as well as progress beyond it. That the opportunity window will close in a year or two is reason to seize it while it still exists, not marginalize it as we watch it close.

EDIT: This question made me consider doing something Stephens question below convinced me to do: Use each MBs search page to get a count of how the total number of posters on each. Results are as follows, in descending order of unique posters:

WoTMB: 689
CMB: 624
BMB: 526
TV/FMB: 391
GMB: 217
RPMB: 54 (!)

Still not precise or a smoking gun, and it does indicate the Quick Poll underestimated participation in the BMB, but unless one MB is getting spammed a lot more than the others it's pretty clear the BMB is a distant third to the WoTMB and CMB in terms of popularity. Popularity doesn't necessarily correspond to merit (rarely, in fact) but it's very relevant to growth potential.
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Stop being a brat! - 09/05/2011 09:57:35 PM 1552 Views
But it is Jens! - 09/05/2011 10:16:23 PM 1499 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1409 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1375 Views
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collapsing of extended thread nests - 09/05/2011 11:09:23 PM 1433 Views
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Thirded *NM* - 27/05/2011 01:39:44 PM 757 Views
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PINK!! - 10/05/2011 03:27:35 AM 1451 Views
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Indeed. *NM* - 10/05/2011 03:53:23 PM 726 Views
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Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 01:37:34 AM 1502 Views
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It's just that... - 11/05/2011 06:04:46 PM 1416 Views
Agreed on all points *NM* - 11/05/2011 05:54:52 PM 765 Views
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It's all there, in the help section at the top of the board. - 12/05/2011 04:50:44 PM 1361 Views
Shush, you. *NM* - 13/05/2011 08:56:05 AM 774 Views
The next time we meet up - 13/05/2011 09:19:01 AM 1416 Views
Anything would be better than nothing. - 13/05/2011 05:48:03 PM 1419 Views
Regarding the forum style - 10/05/2011 11:17:50 PM 1780 Views
+3 *NM* - 10/05/2011 11:35:10 PM 782 Views
Look here! - 11/05/2011 01:25:25 AM 1388 Views
+100 *NM* - 11/05/2011 01:59:30 AM 684 Views
I think that sounds like an excellent middle ground! *NM* - 11/05/2011 04:22:12 AM 759 Views
I agree with the agreement. - 11/05/2011 05:02:44 AM 4614 Views
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Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 05:42:30 PM 1472 Views
Re: Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 06:06:24 PM 1517 Views
Yes. Though it's not just laziness. - 11/05/2011 06:20:50 PM 1321 Views
It's more than laziness, yes. - 11/05/2011 07:53:52 PM 1444 Views
Try laying off the refresh button if you can help it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:52:56 PM 805 Views
It's a high - 11/05/2011 10:28:02 PM 1254 Views
Sorry, internet keeps disconnecting when I hit "submit". - 11/05/2011 11:31:52 PM 1491 Views
I was mostly being a smart-ass about the laziness thing. - 12/05/2011 05:16:40 PM 1396 Views
Cool. - 12/05/2011 07:20:49 PM 1408 Views
I used to have to do that - 16/05/2011 08:26:47 AM 2068 Views
Yeah, that sounds familiar. - 16/05/2011 09:15:56 PM 1500 Views
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Also - 11/05/2011 04:36:17 AM 1497 Views
OoOoo... I like this. *NM* - 11/05/2011 06:25:20 AM 800 Views
Re: Active Users: 51 - 14/06/2011 12:11:43 AM 1365 Views
I wonder if there is a way to make the Search function work... - 11/05/2011 09:56:54 AM 1356 Views
There is an easy fix for that. - 11/05/2011 06:09:10 PM 1464 Views
It's less about mistakes... - 12/05/2011 08:31:59 AM 1412 Views
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Yusssss!!1! *NM* - 12/05/2011 09:58:53 PM 738 Views
An option to not have to see those damn smileys - 11/05/2011 02:24:47 PM 1519 Views
Another thing! - 11/05/2011 05:35:10 PM 1451 Views
For the Quickpolls - 11/05/2011 10:22:23 PM 1438 Views
Good idea. - 11/05/2011 11:30:41 PM 1466 Views
Writing page Writing page WRITING PAGE! *NM* - 12/05/2011 01:15:32 AM 827 Views
Links in posts - can they not take us to a new page but to a new tab/window, please? - 12/05/2011 05:49:23 PM 1485 Views
Happens in Chrome and Firefox, too. *NM* - 12/05/2011 06:13:20 PM 767 Views
It's not, but a simple right-click and select "Open in new tab" does the job in FF, at least. - 12/05/2011 10:40:27 PM 1475 Views
Clicking links with your scroll wheel opens them in a new tab. *NM* - 12/05/2011 11:32:29 PM 800 Views
As does CTRL-click. *NM* - 13/05/2011 07:14:56 AM 1010 Views
I'd like to know when the last post in a thread was. - 13/05/2011 01:14:02 AM 1464 Views
Like back on wotmania? - 13/05/2011 09:02:33 AM 1410 Views
More references of MGB being the badass he is. *NM* - 13/05/2011 04:57:59 AM 823 Views
some kind of "reply all" feature? - 13/05/2011 06:35:15 AM 1469 Views
Two things: facebook and searching within a post - 13/05/2011 03:07:37 PM 1444 Views
I agree. Not the facebook nonsense, but... - 13/05/2011 03:15:24 PM 1485 Views
+1, especially the FB part. - 13/05/2011 04:46:05 PM 1311 Views
I can add a comment for Facebook liking. - 13/05/2011 06:48:16 PM 1691 Views
Maybe it's another IE vs. Firefox thing. - 13/05/2011 08:52:53 PM 1567 Views
I use chrome - 13/05/2011 09:47:06 PM 1373 Views
Also, re: quickpoll - 15/05/2011 04:18:04 PM 1394 Views
and I'd love to be able to "like" it to facebook *NM* - 15/05/2011 04:55:46 PM 717 Views
Ick... you said the f-word. *NM* - 15/05/2011 08:23:16 PM 759 Views
We have to. - 15/05/2011 08:37:01 PM 1468 Views
Make me an Admin! - 13/05/2011 04:17:59 PM 1496 Views
Of what, exactly? You have no discernible skills beside account corruption. *NM* - 13/05/2011 06:27:51 PM 845 Views
I demand silence from the peanut gallery! *NM* - 15/05/2011 02:25:52 AM 738 Views
~silence granted, throws peanuts~ *NM* - 15/05/2011 07:39:50 PM 704 Views
OFF with your HEAD! *NM* - 16/05/2011 08:06:27 PM 702 Views
Since I don't think anyone else has mentioned it here - HTML - 15/05/2011 09:00:39 PM 1577 Views
Mapthis made something like this. - 15/05/2011 09:25:59 PM 1326 Views
He did. I'd forgotten that - 15/05/2011 09:27:39 PM 1431 Views
WYSIWYG! *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:25:49 PM 811 Views
is inherently evil. *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:40:51 PM 688 Views
...and yet inherently accessible to the non-geek masses - 30/05/2011 02:34:58 AM 1427 Views
As I said... - 30/05/2011 08:55:32 AM 1438 Views
A redesigned home page! - 22/05/2011 04:26:27 AM 1449 Views
This isn't particularly helpful. - 30/05/2011 11:28:46 PM 1518 Views
I'm helpful - 04/07/2011 12:40:08 PM 1549 Views
Mobile version *NM* - 02/06/2011 12:42:25 AM 807 Views
Make quote options more prominent - 13/06/2011 02:21:36 PM 1325 Views
The ability to block someone on a certain board? - 17/06/2011 06:48:41 PM 1428 Views
I would like notification when a premium account downgrades - 18/06/2011 10:42:56 AM 1488 Views
We've already got the Facebook "Like" button, however - 26/06/2011 12:06:51 AM 1456 Views
Unhh... Privacy statement? - 19/07/2011 06:14:49 PM 1328 Views
"Rules" would be a better place, IMHO; we're told at least one of those links should soon work. - 22/07/2011 04:08:54 PM 1370 Views
Thanks for the response / comment, Josh - 23/07/2011 08:59:02 AM 1313 Views
I assume it just means people are too busy working on the site to answer immediately. - 23/07/2011 02:06:48 PM 1343 Views
or at all? - 02/08/2011 12:44:15 PM 1444 Views
Hey, you're preaching to the choir on that one. - 02/08/2011 01:40:43 PM 1564 Views
Admins should be able to move Posts into an already existing thread - 20/07/2011 02:52:05 PM 1391 Views
+1. *NM* - 20/07/2011 03:29:57 PM 705 Views
the ability to empty your outbox - 30/07/2011 04:19:17 PM 1444 Views

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