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Merely using a convenient example. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/04/2011 08:00:24 PM
This isn't a discussion about Bush, sorry.

I thought it especially illustrative because the thing I really disliked about him was that I always felt he made an effort to not make an effort to know the facts so he could truthfully say he didn't know better. That's just my subjective opinion, and there are plenty of other examples from both parties. Politicians from both parties seem to have routinely done it during Vietnam, accepting DoD reports at face value because they didn't want to confront the hard questions looking deeper would prompt.
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Obama's birthcert is out. Stephen - 27/04/2011 02:55:27 PM 1391 Views
But...but... Tigr - 27/04/2011 03:43:55 PM 854 Views
Of course, that is why he has now released it snoopcester - 27/04/2011 04:00:06 PM 704 Views
what's wrong with that? *NM* Yunalesca - 27/04/2011 04:06:45 PM 273 Views
sorry, didn't notice the underneath. *NM* Yunalesca - 27/04/2011 04:10:54 PM 313 Views
and a socialist *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2011 04:13:03 PM 386 Views
Even worse, he's a Democrat. Joel - 27/04/2011 04:26:40 PM 754 Views
no reason to be redundant *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2011 04:30:59 PM 325 Views
Well, this thread reminded me I meant to comment on the other one this morning. Joel - 27/04/2011 06:30:10 PM 754 Views
and you reply reminds why I should trying to discuss and issue with is such a chore random thoughts - 27/04/2011 07:03:19 PM 673 Views
Merely using a convenient example. Joel - 27/04/2011 08:00:24 PM 822 Views
Wow I didn't know you had so much insite into Bush. You must be soulmates *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2011 08:05:20 PM 370 Views
I think we have more in common than I'm comfortable contemplating. Joel - 27/04/2011 09:13:30 PM 703 Views
I thought he was a communist? *NM* Roland00 - 27/04/2011 11:07:24 PM 339 Views
socialist is the new communist *NM* random thoughts - 28/04/2011 04:48:19 AM 330 Views
So he is a socialist, communist, and leninist all at the same time *NM* Roland00 - 28/04/2011 04:50:53 AM 322 Views
and a Muslim who attends a Christan anti-American church random thoughts - 28/04/2011 01:57:26 PM 675 Views
He is none of those he is an athiest, who wants to shove his heathen ways down our throats Roland00 - 28/04/2011 03:51:16 PM 686 Views
I am glad to see he finally released it random thoughts - 27/04/2011 04:14:54 PM 684 Views
because if people are questioning this while he's running for re-election he has to answer moondog - 27/04/2011 04:23:53 PM 666 Views
I just read his press release on the issue and I have to say I can't complain random thoughts - 27/04/2011 04:41:42 PM 869 Views
Hopefully. *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/04/2011 06:28:00 PM 307 Views
good. now the only people who still question his citizenship will be professional nutjobs moondog - 27/04/2011 04:30:16 PM 742 Views
"Professional nutjobs"; nice phrase. Joel - 27/04/2011 06:47:51 PM 716 Views
So, no change, then. *NM* Camilla - 28/04/2011 02:06:08 PM 353 Views
no, it will simply require all the amateurs to either hang it up or turn pro *NM* moondog - 28/04/2011 08:47:24 PM 299 Views
that was funny *NM* random thoughts - 28/04/2011 08:50:53 PM 355 Views
This whole thing is amazingly annoying. nossy - 27/04/2011 05:02:56 PM 755 Views
seconded *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/04/2011 05:25:38 PM 315 Views
Thirded *NM* Dark Knight - 27/04/2011 05:37:21 PM 306 Views
Quaded. *NM* Mats Gambling Buddy - 28/04/2011 03:55:30 PM 357 Views
...Pentupted? *NM* Colonel Logain - 29/04/2011 05:03:21 AM 344 Views
Then you'll love this. rebelaessedai - 28/04/2011 06:34:40 AM 855 Views
His mother was only 18? Interesting. *NM* Legolas - 27/04/2011 07:04:40 PM 287 Views
I also noticed that and thought it was the most interesting part of this post. *NM* Clover - 27/04/2011 07:25:30 PM 363 Views
It took long enough to forge it.....now let's see that college transcript. *NM* trzaska2000 - 27/04/2011 08:04:55 PM 351 Views
*NM* Skeeve the Great - 27/04/2011 08:31:14 PM 388 Views
Honestly. *NM* Amyrlin - 27/04/2011 11:16:42 PM 286 Views
Re: Yeah man! Gaps - 27/04/2011 11:52:17 PM 845 Views
You do know he was in the top ten percent of his class in Harvard Law right? *NM* Roland00 - 28/04/2011 01:24:15 AM 331 Views
He was also an average student at an only decent undergrad school.....so how did he get..... trzaska2000 - 28/04/2011 01:50:34 AM 764 Views
Some people are late bloomers. I was. No conspiracy or cheating was involved. Tashmere - 28/04/2011 02:27:15 AM 693 Views
High LSAT scores. But please, tell us how you think law school admissions work. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/04/2011 04:35:40 AM 311 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 28/04/2011 07:13:29 AM 325 Views
God knows I've spent enough time stressing about them lately. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/04/2011 08:07:23 AM 293 Views
In his case, massive amounts of affirmative action and political pressure from the Chicago Crew *NM* trzaska2000 - 28/04/2011 05:19:41 PM 361 Views
And that will show up on his transcript somewhere? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 28/04/2011 05:32:50 PM 330 Views
do you question the legitimacy of our previous president's qualifications to enter yale? moondog - 28/04/2011 08:48:33 PM 721 Views
That is your speculation. *NM* everynametaken - 29/04/2011 05:26:31 AM 376 Views
Re: Not just affirmative action, people, but massive amounts of affirmative action. Gaps - 30/04/2011 01:10:37 AM 745 Views
You didn't answer the question Roland00 - 28/04/2011 04:41:53 AM 678 Views
There is a multifaceted admission process taken into account, not just a GPA. *NM* everynametaken - 28/04/2011 07:15:24 AM 333 Views
Re: All this did was make me think about sex. And that I need to stop posting... Gaps - 27/04/2011 11:38:00 PM 760 Views
Why did it take so long for him to release it? Timthetrolloc - 28/04/2011 05:05:12 AM 746 Views
the issue should have never gotten so much momentum to begin with moondog - 28/04/2011 06:19:50 AM 764 Views
the issue should have never gotten so much momentum to begin with moondog - 28/04/2011 06:21:44 AM 691 Views
What should he release next? Aeryn - 28/04/2011 03:03:58 PM 750 Views
DNA proving those are actually his parents *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 28/04/2011 03:06:32 PM 283 Views
I am not joking, but that is impossible Roland00 - 28/04/2011 04:00:17 PM 679 Views
Pshhh, you say it's impossible and then go on to explain how it could be done. Sareitha Sedai - 28/04/2011 04:02:33 PM 717 Views
I would think they if you could get enough relatives you could at least prove they are related *NM* random thoughts - 28/04/2011 07:20:00 PM 428 Views
Might want to check his quantum signature for a match to the general populace as well. TaskmasterJack - 29/04/2011 01:28:22 AM 588 Views
You see that conspiracy theory actually makes sense Roland00 - 29/04/2011 04:32:18 AM 638 Views
That thing is fake! You can tell easily by looking at the the... Mats Gambling Buddy - 28/04/2011 04:08:53 PM 779 Views
The box that says "Hung: Like a fucking horse." is what tipped me off to him making it himself. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 29/04/2011 01:30:23 AM 353 Views
You mean that's not on all birth certificates? *NM* Mats Gambling Buddy - 29/04/2011 02:26:37 PM 316 Views
I think it's the swearing that makes it suspicious. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/04/2011 12:30:09 AM 327 Views
How many other Pres have been asked to publicly release their Birth Certificate? *NM* Nolan - 28/04/2011 07:55:50 PM 319 Views
How many others had foreign nationals for fathers and were raised partially outside the country? random thoughts - 28/04/2011 08:54:31 PM 646 Views
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