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I'm with you on this. *NM* Camilla Send a noteboard - 20/04/2011 10:00:41 AM
I was talking with a friend about how his relationship with his wife has changed over time. How expectations when you just start out differ from when you first move in together, to now, where he felt that their expectation levels were far more compatible and therefore their relationship has really taken a turn for the positive.

As an example, he mentioned this past weekend. His wife had asked him if he wanted to go with her to her mother for Easter. He replied: "I'll think about it." Her response was that she said she'll just go on her own.

The improvement he saw here was that in the past, his response would have led to an argument. His stance in the argument was also clear from what he mentioned, namely: "I didn't say I wouldn't go, I said I'd think about it." So to his thinking, their expectation levels are more in sync, which shows the relationship is better.

To me it sounds a lot more like his wife has given up on trying to get him to come along, i.e. their expectation levels aren't more in sync, but she's simply given up on this part of their relationship.

Now I have a very different type of relationship from him. It would never occur to either my fiancé or me to not go to family when it's important for the other person. So my friend's response to his wife would have been utterly bewildering to me. A big part of a relationship to me is doing things for each other, because they are important to my partner, and my fiancé feels the same way.

So perhaps my views that this is a sign of a break down is simply caused by my different perspective on relationships. What do you think? Do you think that my friend's relationship has improved as he thinks, or do you think that it's a sign of his wife giving up on parts of their relationship, potentially leading to an eventual breakdown?
*MySmiley*
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Relationship - positive development or signs of eventual break down? - 19/04/2011 08:48:26 AM 1863 Views
Helene, I want to give you an answer but... - 19/04/2011 08:58:45 AM 1005 Views
Fair enough - 19/04/2011 10:01:51 AM 965 Views
inlaws are not always bad - 19/04/2011 02:10:18 PM 920 Views
I spend way more time with my in-laws than with my own family. - 19/04/2011 02:17:41 PM 909 Views
I'm like this with my future in-laws too. *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:47:05 PM 444 Views
I think they are right - 19/04/2011 10:20:39 AM 1143 Views
I see your point - 19/04/2011 10:42:51 AM 1097 Views
Re: I think they are right - 19/04/2011 01:59:57 PM 965 Views
I think that's an unfair assumption. - 19/04/2011 02:16:54 PM 895 Views
What he said about his wife's mother - 19/04/2011 02:59:32 PM 1067 Views
No offense... - 19/04/2011 02:35:53 PM 1049 Views
yes but have you found such a thing? - 19/04/2011 03:05:35 PM 974 Views
For now I have *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:08:17 PM 479 Views
how long has it been? *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:16:32 PM 455 Views
Don't try to corrupt me with your long term pessimism - 19/04/2011 03:34:39 PM 924 Views
sadly I seem attracted to the crazies *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:08:14 PM 448 Views
Could be either - 19/04/2011 10:30:50 AM 1019 Views
True enough... - 19/04/2011 10:44:28 AM 982 Views
My opinion is the latter. - 19/04/2011 01:55:00 PM 994 Views
He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 01:56:49 PM 969 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:07:34 PM 927 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:13:25 PM 1071 Views
I should have read this first. - 19/04/2011 02:25:16 PM 1009 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:23:14 PM 988 Views
The fact that you are referring to a fiancé and comparing it to wife says a lot - 19/04/2011 02:09:27 PM 1078 Views
To be fair, me and my fiance have been together for about as long as they have - 19/04/2011 02:57:03 PM 921 Views
I don't know about everyone but things changed when we got married - 19/04/2011 03:16:11 PM 966 Views
How did things change? - 19/04/2011 04:14:56 PM 965 Views
Like I said I can only speak for myself - 19/04/2011 04:54:04 PM 993 Views
There's already a 10 year old in the picture for us - 19/04/2011 06:52:44 PM 916 Views
My husband and I don't understand why people say this. - 20/04/2011 01:03:31 AM 1027 Views
I did say I was only speaking for myself - 20/04/2011 01:58:45 PM 971 Views
I know. - 20/04/2011 09:01:11 PM 1186 Views
Sorry for some reason I thought you had just got married. - 20/04/2011 09:52:24 PM 1424 Views
Good luck to them! *NM* - 22/04/2011 04:25:38 AM 438 Views
From the information that you have presented... - 19/04/2011 03:50:19 PM 1150 Views
Could go either way. - 19/04/2011 04:36:02 PM 929 Views
I get the impression that it's more about her forming toward him than vice versa - 19/04/2011 06:56:37 PM 939 Views
Giving up is one thing, growing past is another. - 19/04/2011 10:00:55 PM 892 Views
Oh, to be fair, he's the friend and she's the wife - 20/04/2011 08:43:12 AM 855 Views
I don't necessarily think it will end in a breakup or divorce. - 19/04/2011 04:44:11 PM 917 Views
I think this is about priorities. - 20/04/2011 01:07:20 AM 1070 Views
Our priorities may shift over time, too. We're still very young and more tied to our families. - 20/04/2011 03:09:54 AM 889 Views
Even when younger, I was independent. - 20/04/2011 05:29:59 AM 815 Views
*nods* - 20/04/2011 06:25:29 AM 997 Views
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Not the former for sure, and maybe not the latter. - 19/04/2011 05:55:03 PM 977 Views
Can't tell. - 19/04/2011 10:04:27 PM 891 Views
I'm with the 'can't tell' crowd. - 19/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 1205 Views
hell, or she could just not care too much at all - 19/04/2011 11:43:21 PM 919 Views
I'm leaning more towards your interpretation. *NM* - 20/04/2011 02:15:22 AM 410 Views
I'm with you on this. *NM* - 20/04/2011 10:00:41 AM 461 Views
*sigh* - 20/04/2011 09:25:02 PM 1034 Views
Re: I mean, it's not good. *NM* - 20/04/2011 11:50:21 PM 400 Views

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