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Good, we agree on that much then. Legolas Send a noteboard - 17/04/2011 09:59:17 AM
I'm not sure where I said that we don't need to rein it the health care costs. We certainly do. And the first step in my mind is we need to limit private insurance bureaucracy which is much more ineffective than governments. Personally, I prefer single-payer system and having system that bets on people lives is immoral and wrong.

Yeah, I prefer single-payer systems too, but I'm really not sure it's realistic to advocate a switch towards that in the US, as I said. Not only because the political opposition against it would be so overwhelming, but also because it's very hard to see how you could ever make the transition from the one to the other.
My point was that we need to fix rising health care costs, instead of cutting Medicare and Medicaid. If we do this, then Medicare and Medicaid will be fixed automatically.

Medicare and Medicaid make up a significant part of the health care costs, though. Slowing down the growth in health care costs will be hard enough without arbitrarily exempting Medicare and Medicaid from cuts.
With the state of the current GOP I'm not sure you are right. Look around you! They want "their" country back! Do you follow how they are doing it in the states? For example, Mississippi, 46% plurality of registered Republican voters said they thought interracial marriage was not just wrong, but that it should be illegal. WI, MI, OH - all try to end rights for collective bargain agreements. Almost all southern states try to eliminate women right to choose about their own health care. And list go on. Am convinced that if they start on reining Medicare and Medicaid it will be translated to "stop giving health insurance to children" and good working conditions definitely will go down the drain.

The interracial marriage stat is a bit shocking, though you'll excuse me if I take it with a liberal dose of salt. But as for the rest - conservatives holding different opinions on some things doesn't mean they are monsters who would stop providing children with health insurance. And when conservatives talk about deregulation, allowing companies to poison their employees really isn't what they have in mind, no matter what you may believe.
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Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 04:41:55 AM 1184 Views
Well ... at least we've been here before ... ? The_Muted_Grimaud - 16/04/2011 06:41:00 AM 711 Views
Guess we should have okay'd those death panels for old people then. Big money saver. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:38:00 PM 360 Views
Yeah, those old people are draining the system..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 06:57:59 PM 692 Views
You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Legolas - 16/04/2011 04:08:37 PM 835 Views
Re: You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Tihs Tnuc - 17/04/2011 01:33:31 AM 812 Views
Balancing our budget would be easy. ranagrande - 16/04/2011 06:46:32 PM 653 Views
Several of those aren't as easy as you make it sound, but the import tax is a big no-no. Legolas - 16/04/2011 07:34:30 PM 876 Views
Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 16/04/2011 08:17:26 PM 759 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Macharius - 18/04/2011 01:59:44 PM 799 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 18/04/2011 05:16:14 PM 969 Views
Funny you mentioned WWII and 1968. Can you put tax rates at these times as well? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 07:50:09 PM 1139 Views
Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. *NM* Legolas - 16/04/2011 08:25:26 PM 318 Views
Re: Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:19:40 PM 799 Views
Have you ever looked at those projections for a decade or two hence? Legolas - 16/04/2011 10:13:12 PM 744 Views
Yes I have Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:44:50 PM 875 Views
Erm, and you think total health care spending is not getting out of control? I'm a little confused. Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:02:52 PM 805 Views
Yes it's going out of control Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:17:59 PM 741 Views
Good, we agree on that much then. Legolas - 17/04/2011 09:59:17 AM 728 Views
Exactly. Cutting back on fraud and waste doesn't really put much of a dent in those projections. *NM* Tom - 17/04/2011 02:31:13 AM 298 Views
Sorry, but that is a stupid opinion..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 08:38:35 PM 688 Views
Sounds like another bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:31:05 PM 978 Views
Dude, the data is the data.....tax revenue increased all three times. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 09:47:37 PM 923 Views
As I suspected, it's a bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:02:05 PM 845 Views
Stop being a fool - read and react to the data provided, posting something..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:14:11 PM 615 Views
Response is Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:19:00 PM 834 Views
Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:28:44 PM 822 Views
Re: Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:47:24 PM 793 Views
I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:11:19 PM 682 Views
Re: I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:26:02 PM 835 Views
Additional point Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 845 Views
It's not remarkable that revenue increased after the Reagan cuts. Tom - 17/04/2011 07:21:47 PM 1006 Views
I've just noticed that you've provided charts from Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:13:46 PM 705 Views
All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:16:08 PM 717 Views
Re: All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:27:01 PM 836 Views
Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:35:44 PM 650 Views
Re: Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:49:33 PM 780 Views
Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Tom - 17/04/2011 02:34:50 AM 658 Views
Re: Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Skeeve the Great - 17/04/2011 03:50:24 AM 889 Views
Some obesrvations by Republican economists Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 12:27:04 AM 1023 Views
You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics random thoughts - 18/04/2011 04:00:52 PM 659 Views
Re: You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 05:36:44 PM 649 Views
You use Krugman and then complain about the Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? *NM* random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:46:47 AM 336 Views
Useless fact about our presidents since 1945. heartbreak - 17/04/2011 09:20:16 PM 906 Views
Re: Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... Skeeve the Great - 20/04/2011 03:51:19 PM 1081 Views
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