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Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM
First off I said I believe he was born in the US and I am not arguing otherwise. When he was born there was long form birth certificate created and signed by the doctor who delivered him and that is what the birthers are demanding to see. If they they have justification to demand that is highly questionable but such a document should exist. Obama could end the entire controversy by producing that document. Since I believe he was born in a Haywain hospital I think the document must exist so I have to ask why Obama won't produce it if ending the controversy was real goal. I suspect Obama loves this issue and wants to get as much mileage out of it as possible. I am not questioning Obama's qualification to hold office I am questioning his sincerity.


Why would he do what no other candidate did in any point of US history? Don't you think that it's very unusual to demand from the person something extra to prove when not demanding the same from the others?

I see birthers as nothing more than racists. I don't think it's coincidence that as soon as black person became strong candidate and later the President of USA some weird additional demands started popping out to prove that he's eligible.

As for the Arizona law, I would love to see it blows in their faces.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2018 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 930 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 838 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1032 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 949 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 813 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 988 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 981 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 899 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 892 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 839 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 772 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 852 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 943 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 880 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 879 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 968 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1044 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 989 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 954 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 908 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 847 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 816 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 833 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 924 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 912 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 922 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 861 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 853 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 970 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 873 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 468 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 427 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 992 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 947 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 797 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 925 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 407 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 889 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 959 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 930 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 447 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 893 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1037 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 958 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 941 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 422 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 941 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 449 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 455 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 422 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 873 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 438 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 413 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 867 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 411 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 448 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 507 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 853 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 923 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 904 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 907 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 813 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 873 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1073 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 428 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1284 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 945 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 800 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 990 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 979 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 985 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 933 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1039 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1131 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 815 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 872 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 459 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 406 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1018 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1082 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 961 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 375 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 418 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 381 Views
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