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I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM
There are plenty of things that people on the right can attack Obama for and in a way that will actually resonate with independent voters. If they devoted their energies to coming up with rational arguments, they could do a lot more good for their ultimate goal (seeing Obama lose in 2012).
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 1938 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 861 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 762 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 946 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 874 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 735 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 906 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 899 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 821 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 814 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 762 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 700 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 782 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 867 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 809 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 786 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 893 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 963 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 914 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 869 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 832 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 768 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 739 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 762 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 843 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 868 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 823 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 817 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 771 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 890 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 802 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 432 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 398 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 914 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 870 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 722 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 842 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 376 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 812 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 877 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 853 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 416 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 817 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 960 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 894 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 844 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 387 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 864 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 416 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 422 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 388 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 799 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 404 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 384 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 784 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 392 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 412 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 482 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 772 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 843 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 829 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 859 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 745 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 787 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 982 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 393 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1175 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 870 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 718 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 912 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 889 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 919 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 859 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 952 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1056 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 745 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 785 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 428 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 374 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 951 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 997 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 879 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 340 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 387 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 352 Views
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