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That's not a compelling counter-argument for me. Tom Send a noteboard - 12/04/2011 11:22:21 PM
There are several reasons why the dreaming arguments you raised do not work for me. First, the character of those sorts of dreams is different. They are always very vivid and force me to remember them, and they usually occur just before dawn. Second, even if most of my dreams didn't come true, the fact that a few did and with a level of detail that was frightening (I didn't go into all the details), is enough that sheer coincidence is not an option.

Your explanation about "atoms lining up" is simply as unsatisfactory of an explanation as "God" is from a purely scientific standpoint.

As for drinking, I'm usually up for drinking. However, I got a sinus infection and am not going anywhere this week. Keep me posted on future gatherings, though.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Questions about souls... - 12/04/2011 03:06:54 AM 2072 Views
Re: Questions about souls... - 12/04/2011 03:23:00 AM 1113 Views
All right. - 12/04/2011 05:50:08 AM 1086 Views
Re: Questions about souls... - 12/04/2011 06:27:14 AM 1066 Views
It would really depend on the mechanism - 12/04/2011 06:28:24 AM 946 Views
You assume we all know, and agree on, what "soul" means. - 12/04/2011 08:42:47 AM 996 Views
It is what hope, which is a thing with feathers, perches on. - 12/04/2011 07:32:07 PM 1043 Views
But seriously, what does it do? - 12/04/2011 11:01:58 PM 1045 Views
It makes poems pretty. - 13/04/2011 07:00:03 PM 1069 Views
Re: Yeah, exactly. - 15/04/2011 02:43:24 AM 1043 Views
Just going off the 'reborn' thing.. - 12/04/2011 08:53:28 AM 972 Views
Hm. - 12/04/2011 03:22:01 PM 1083 Views
Agreed. - 12/04/2011 05:49:11 PM 944 Views
it wouldn't change much for me, but I'm pretty flexible in my spiritual beliefs - 12/04/2011 04:23:34 PM 1081 Views
This. *NM* - 13/04/2011 04:15:11 PM 589 Views
Re: Questions about souls... - 12/04/2011 05:44:53 PM 1128 Views
What a fantasy. - 12/04/2011 07:57:38 PM 1001 Views
What happened to two? *NM* - 12/04/2011 08:20:41 PM 586 Views
Thanks, I fixed it. *NM* - 12/04/2011 08:29:20 PM 598 Views
Your comments, or mine? - 13/04/2011 01:24:53 AM 1471 Views
You get one guess. - 13/04/2011 07:09:01 PM 1202 Views
One dismissive answer deserves another. - 24/04/2011 12:54:44 AM 1090 Views
I'm a Christian who is partial to reincarnation, so I do not think much would change. - 12/04/2011 06:21:36 PM 1041 Views
*is disappointed* *NM* - 12/04/2011 08:01:05 PM 527 Views
You'd be surprised how frequently I get that from both sides. - 12/04/2011 08:22:24 PM 1025 Views
I bet you do! - 12/04/2011 08:47:59 PM 988 Views
Re: I bet you do! - 13/04/2011 04:02:07 AM 1025 Views
Does it really? - 24/04/2011 01:09:34 AM 909 Views
OMG! - 14/04/2011 06:19:50 PM 1020 Views
Go expand his worldview. *NM* - 14/04/2011 06:56:03 PM 547 Views
I think we are similar in some respects philosophically. - 13/04/2011 05:59:38 AM 973 Views
Who says.... - 13/04/2011 07:11:24 PM 930 Views
So then my question is.... - 13/04/2011 07:08:42 PM 936 Views
Because I believe that Jesus was an incarnation of the λόγος. - 14/04/2011 12:36:36 AM 969 Views
*heh* - 14/04/2011 04:12:32 PM 1081 Views
I think I answered it pretty clearly in my post title. *NM* - 14/04/2011 06:59:47 PM 603 Views
Actually, you didn't. - 15/04/2011 12:12:42 AM 1027 Views
Re: Actually, you didn't. - 24/04/2011 09:04:04 AM 1000 Views
I think that, like a lot of other people responding, I would want and need more information. - 12/04/2011 07:13:14 PM 968 Views
Speaking of the agnostic/atheist thing - 12/04/2011 07:40:04 PM 1010 Views
99% that there is no God... - 12/04/2011 08:08:42 PM 1073 Views
Technically, no, atheists simply lack belief in a God. - 12/04/2011 08:19:15 PM 992 Views
Whoah there, - 12/04/2011 08:26:43 PM 980 Views
Okay, I have to admit I wasn't expecting to get called out on that. - 13/04/2011 04:03:08 AM 1066 Views
no I think that's just the literal definition... - 12/04/2011 11:19:18 PM 924 Views
Isn't that what "technically" would imply? - 13/04/2011 04:04:42 AM 1124 Views
It certainly doesn't mean you can't make conclusions. - 12/04/2011 08:09:41 PM 1085 Views
Re: Campbell: - 12/04/2011 08:42:09 PM 1084 Views
Self-identification is an interesting point here. - 12/04/2011 09:00:46 PM 977 Views
Re: Agree - 12/04/2011 09:22:22 PM 1016 Views
Answers. - 12/04/2011 09:05:38 PM 978 Views
That's not a compelling counter-argument for me. - 12/04/2011 11:22:21 PM 1145 Views
Never mind. - 12/04/2011 11:34:46 PM 944 Views
be sure to post if it does happen *NM* - 12/04/2011 11:56:17 PM 544 Views
Have you had any vivid dreams that came true? - 13/04/2011 01:16:59 AM 916 Views
My mom used to have dreams like that, usually about relatives. - 13/04/2011 02:25:45 AM 1060 Views
I can easily believe that. - 13/04/2011 06:14:51 AM 921 Views
Minivans can fit lots of useful stuffs, like furniture. *NM* - 13/04/2011 03:47:04 PM 603 Views
So can gas-guzzling SUVs, and full trucks. *NM* - 13/04/2011 05:13:20 PM 557 Views
for that matter, you can fit a surprising amount even in a baby truck! *NM* - 13/04/2011 06:36:58 PM 535 Views
I'd find it quite comforting - 12/04/2011 07:40:09 PM 948 Views
Well, as I said in my census form on Sunday - 12/04/2011 08:36:05 PM 1116 Views
Pythagoras was a total nut. - 12/04/2011 10:05:42 PM 1065 Views
True - 12/04/2011 10:13:43 PM 971 Views
It would upset my belief in science - 12/04/2011 09:39:39 PM 1110 Views
There's so much wrong with that statement. - 12/04/2011 09:55:45 PM 1092 Views
If science proved there really was an Easter Bunny would it affect your believe in science? *NM* - 12/04/2011 10:30:09 PM 644 Views
*is both bored and annoyed* - 12/04/2011 11:03:10 PM 980 Views
right. - 12/04/2011 11:18:31 PM 1186 Views
and what if science proved that science was false? - 12/04/2011 11:48:32 PM 1049 Views
I think that's kind of the point; it can't. - 13/04/2011 01:33:44 AM 929 Views
Did you read my original post? - 13/04/2011 03:13:34 AM 889 Views
I did, yes. - 13/04/2011 03:32:18 AM 931 Views
Yes it would upset my belief in science, why is that so hard to accept - 13/04/2011 01:56:59 PM 1039 Views
What's a soul? - 12/04/2011 10:51:39 PM 955 Views
I can only give you my personal take. - 13/04/2011 01:47:39 AM 1092 Views
so did this guy took a railroad spike through the head - 13/04/2011 01:58:52 PM 1106 Views
Nah, he just got someone else's added to him. But now Ruin can influence him. *NM* - 13/04/2011 06:38:31 PM 607 Views
Thanks a lot - 13/04/2011 07:02:29 PM 978 Views
No. - 23/04/2011 09:15:16 PM 985 Views
but we know personality can be draticaly altered by physical means - 24/04/2011 03:28:36 AM 1303 Views
"We" don't know that; that's the problem. - 24/04/2011 07:02:49 AM 1111 Views
Can one have an identity without memory? *NM* - 13/04/2011 03:46:16 PM 568 Views
Sure. - 23/04/2011 08:53:51 PM 820 Views
Re: My question about souls: who will save your souuuuls? *NM* - 13/04/2011 04:04:21 AM 574 Views
I would becoming interested in tracing people's souls across time/space - 13/04/2011 04:00:51 PM 972 Views
Re: I would becoming interested in tracing people's souls across time/space - 14/04/2011 03:29:55 AM 986 Views
Sorry :-) - 14/04/2011 10:15:30 AM 1053 Views
Interesting concept.... - 13/04/2011 07:28:42 PM 950 Views
Heh. Loose faith. - 14/04/2011 02:32:27 AM 979 Views
It kinda still works though....doesn't it? - 14/04/2011 04:14:19 PM 967 Views
it does work. well in fact! *NM* - 24/04/2011 03:24:25 AM 549 Views
Oooh... - 14/04/2011 04:31:30 AM 1028 Views
Who says..... - 14/04/2011 04:26:31 PM 1082 Views
Wow, thanks for all the responses!! - 14/04/2011 03:42:38 AM 1033 Views

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