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At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM
Both statements were given within moments of each other so you can not judge the second statement without keeping in mind what he had said in the first. You don't have to like what he said but the fact remains that the quote posted was misleading and taken out of context. I am not defending Rush and I don't particularly like the man and you will never find me using him as a source. He was making jokes about Chelsy Clinton when she was still a teenager living in the White House and that crosses any reasonable line of decency. It doesn't change the fact that his quote was taken out of context. It was clear to anyone willing to be honest with themselves that it was meant as hyperbole and not as a real claim that they were actaully doing it. He was claiming it was the kind of thing they would do. And lets be honest almost any national disaster from flooding to rain to drought to hurricanes to snow storms to heat waves has been blamed on global warming in the last few years. He was poking fun at that.

By the way I am still not convinced the other guy was not implying that Mother Nature was literally sending us a signal but I do accept that I don't have enough context to make that judgment and I am not going assume that is what he meant simply because it fits my view of reactionary environmentalist.

His later comments only provide the "context" that he knew no one is blaming the tsunami on global warming, but sincerely considers environmentalists guilty of making them anyway. ECO-LIBEL!!! :rolleyes: Now if an environmentalist leader (instead of, say, a B movie actor... ) comes along and makes such a claim his prediction will be vindicated, but until then he's just talking out his rear, untroubled by the total lack of facts to support HIS claims.
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 836 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 729 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 530 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 677 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 697 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 679 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 615 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 258 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 232 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 617 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 490 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 630 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 651 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 480 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 585 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 558 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 820 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 641 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 556 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 518 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 595 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 656 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 552 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 535 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 544 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 524 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 564 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 637 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 581 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 511 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 616 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 578 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 523 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 644 Views
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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 694 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 580 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 502 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 221 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 658 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 541 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 550 Views
no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally - 17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM 573 Views
At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence. - 18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM 651 Views
so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough - 18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM 528 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 666 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 224 Views

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