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No worries. Joel Send a noteboard - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM
Gonna have to leave you hanging, my frustration index just topped off and I'm taking a break from chatting politics here for a bit, maybe we can have one of our nice conversations about telescopes or something instead, personally I'm of a mind to think we should all swear a truce not to bring up anything political for like a week or something.

FWIW, I don't think you're trying to mislead anyone; I believe you to be an honest and forthright person and have never had cause to think otherwise. I can't speak for him, but perhaps snoop doesn't feel you're INTENTIONALLY trying to mislead anyone (though in that case "mislead" is probably not the word I would've used; then again, I'm in no position to articulate his thoughts). I do agree with virtually everything else in his last response to you though (particularly the analysis of the EESC Presidents comments). Your response to Camilla did feel to me a lot like an attempt to vindicate what Rush said on its face, with the mention of context only briefly noted in the course of that. I feel obligated to respond, sooner or later, to any posts in my thread about Peter King and his hearings, but otherwise, since I'm getting married the day after tomorrow, a week long moratorium on politics sounds like a good idea. Sorry for the frustration; if it's any consolation I'm a little frustrated with some of these exchanges as well, though not because of you.

I think we all feel frustrated, and I know how strongly you feel about replying when someone's taken the time to reply to you, do as you think best, I'm just jumping ship on all of them, I'm not going to back down off points I believe or ask anyone else to, and I don't trust myself not to accidentally put in a parting shot, never approved of those, easier to to close my mouth entirely. Sorry if I ripped in at you in that other sub-thread, it is as you say, not particularly related to you.

Sometimes you have to wash your hands, and I'd probably be better off if I did that more often. I still owe a few people a few responses, but even the Texas Independence Day thread got kinda nasty. Maybe we do need a chat; before I started talking to him in wotmania Chat I probably would've cheerfully beaten dart_board to death with a shovel over his politics. Now, of course, it would be to pick up his wife.... :winky:
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 898 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 805 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 610 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 761 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 779 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 751 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 697 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 297 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 258 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 690 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 577 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 701 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 719 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 548 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 652 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 631 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 892 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 721 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 628 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 596 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 669 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 729 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 625 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 611 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 627 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 593 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 639 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 719 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 669 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 592 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 687 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 659 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 602 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 726 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 615 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 776 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 656 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 551 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 250 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 734 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 620 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 627 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 745 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 240 Views

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