" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM
If it's a bad joke, it's a bad joke, but not a false claim in service of his political agenda while accusing his foes of that very thing.
I'm afraid I can't link the audio to you, so its pointless for me to tell you that it's clearly a joke and that he's also carry on a conversation with his producer and his sound engineer that you can't hear. Yes it's all one big long bad joke. I'm not sure why Rush making fun of environmentalists is all that outrageous, TV and radio talking heads regularly make nasty comments, we don't really need people to start posting remarks from Jon Stewart with "and look what he said about West Virginia, that's slander! I didn't marry my sister. No, he really meant it too, he said all West Virginians marry their siblings, right here!"
As snoop said, the context only underscores the meaning of his comment, without changing it one whit. He was holding environmentalists responsible for something none of them have said IN ADDITION to making fun of Japans tragedy (at length). He virtually admits to begging the question when he says, "I have no doubt they're gonna try to claim global warming had something to do with the earthquake and the tsunami. Well of course they will". No laugh track; he was serious as the grave. Note the future tense: "gonna try", "will". He's already taking them to task for something he states as fact will happen, but then, he began by taking them to task for something they hadn't done (but it's OK, because they will, trust me.... ) It's almost a clinic in begging the question; before he accuses environmentalists of blaming the tsunami on global warming, he first bitches about Obama for a while before asking, "But how long is it gonna be before the press starts talking about this earthquake and the tsunami and how it impacts Obama?" Well, gee, Rush, I dunno; how long did it take after you said that for it to be broadcast around the country? Though, to be fair, Rush Limbaugh only qualifies as "the press" by the loosest of definitions. After taking a moment to pre-accuse environmentalists of blaming the earthquake on oil exploration as well, he again pulls Obama into it, out of the blue, so he can complain about the media pulling Obama into it out of the blue before reiterating his pre-accusation that environmentalists will blame the earthquake on oil exploration, and get away with it because "Remember, the nature of the evidence is not the concern here". Kinda like when you hold entire groups responsible for something they haven't done, because you KNOW they will.
All of which is tacked onto a series of jokes at the expense of the Japanese people and to incidentally attack Obama and environmentalists that had no connection with the tragedy (other than evil Obama sending emergency aid) until Rush created one. Apparently Gilbert Gottfried tweeted two jokes about the disaster in Japan and is no longer the voice of the Aflac duck; we can hope Rushs comments are received similarly well.
Bottom line remains that the transcript shows Rush both was sincere in his charges that environmentalists blame the tsunami on global warming, though he first said so in the course of laughing about the tragedy, and has no examples of environmentalists actually doing so, though he feels the charge is legitimate because he KNOWS they will.
The context changes nothing, except to show Rush was making light of the tragedy AS WELL AS making serious, sincere and completely concocted accusations against environmentalists.
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This message last edited by Joel on 16/03/2011 at 11:12:31 PM
So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on?
16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM
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Possibly different ones then the EESC president
16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM
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No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM
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Tsunami and climate change
17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM
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"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses"
18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM
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Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM
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Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing.
18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM
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A slightly misleading post
16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM
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Kind of missed the point there
16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM
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If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM
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Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM
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" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM
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Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM
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I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM
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Re: I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM
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You need to reread what I said
16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM
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No, I think you're still missing my point
16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
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No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it".
16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM
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I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means
16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM
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there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush
16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM
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So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did.
16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM
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well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it
16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM
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Um... he stated where he was going with it.
16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM
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At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard
16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM
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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe.
16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
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I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be
16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM
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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright
16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
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Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done
16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM
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Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless.
16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM
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lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters
17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM
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Yes: It makes it worse.
17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM
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no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally
17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM
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At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence.
18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM
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so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough
18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM
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