It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright
Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
he says we have been given a sign from Mother Natures. Now it is possible he is talking about islands affect by global warming but it isn't clear that is what is talking about. I think the statement is ambiguous enough to warrant a request for clarification.
In those very words: "The earthquake and tsunami will clearly have a severe impact on the economic and social activities of the region. Some islands affected by climate change have been hit". Again, the only way we can pretend he MIGHT mean something else is to ignore those words and reduce his comments to "Mother Nature has given us a sign that is what we should do", a statement that means nothing, because it doesn't state what the sign is nor what action it should prompt. Limbaughs words don't suffer from that uncertainty: He says very clearly and unambiguously, "This has to be a tough call for the environmentalists around the world. They're scrambling now to blame this on global warming". What needs clarification there? Saying that environmentalists are scrambling to blame the earthquake, tsunami and potential nuclear disaster on global warming needs RETRACTION, and desperately, but no one should need additional commentary to understand it. You want to talk about double standards? You're pretending the President of the EESC didn't say something he unequivocally said, just so you can pretend Rush said something he unequivocally DIDN'T.
As for Rush do we even know if this is the case he is referring to or is just and example Isaac gave? So no it isn't crystal clear what Rush was saying because we don't even know which environmentalist or statement he was referring to, mostly because the statement was taken out of context.
It's the only thing that's even been SUGGESTED as the case to which Limbaugh was referring; that Isaac couldn't find a better example speaks volumes, as does the fact that Limbaugh apparently made the statement without providing any example proving his accusation, forcing his defenders to seek one. If he had provided such an example we'd be criticizing the idiot who made the comment instead of THIS idiot for making the accusation. Your defense boils down to "someone, somewhere, who's an enviromentalist, MAY have said global warming caused the tsunami, so we should take Rushs word on that, without evidence, and accept on faith his statement that 'they're scrambling now to blame this on global warming'". Sorry, Rush Limbaugh doesn't have that kind of credibility with me; very few people do, and you wouldn't take it on faith if I said, "Republicans are scrambling to blame cancer on liberalism".
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This message last edited by Joel on 16/03/2011 at 10:13:29 PM
So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on?
16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM
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Possibly different ones then the EESC president
16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM
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No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM
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Tsunami and climate change
17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM
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"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses"
18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM
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Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM
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Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing.
18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM
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A slightly misleading post
16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM
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Kind of missed the point there
16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM
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If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM
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Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM
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" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM
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Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM
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I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM
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Re: I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM
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You need to reread what I said
16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM
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No, I think you're still missing my point
16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
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No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it".
16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM
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I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means
16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM
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there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush
16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM
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So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did.
16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM
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well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it
16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM
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Um... he stated where he was going with it.
16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM
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At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard
16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM
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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe.
16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
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I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be
16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM
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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright
16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
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Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done
16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM
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Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless.
16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM
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lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters
17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM
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Yes: It makes it worse.
17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM
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no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally
17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM
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At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence.
18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM
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so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough
18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM
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