I came across that remark with the bold part only, and I thought it so outrageous that I looked up the entire statement, context and all. Even with that I think the statement is a bad one, but not a crazy one. I also looked up Rush's complete comments, he posts transcripts, he has for a long time precisely because he runs a 3-hour long unscripted radio program everyday and people often yank his comments out of context. Now its too late for anyone to post that transcript and have anyone objectively say 'hmm... a bit offensive' or 'oh, yeah that was a pretty mean joke, he's making fun of Danny Glover and accusing environmentalists of seizing on natural disasters to push their agenda' because everyone read the quote, formed an opinion, and won't budge. Nobody here ever does. Someone posts some soundbite, and they all fall in on partisan lines and argue about it, and nobody ever bothers to look it up. Well I saw the EESC's comments another blog, and all the comments about it were outraged howling and crazed defenses, and I stopped and thought "Why isn't this guy being dragged through the proverbial streets to be tarred and feathered?" so I looked up what he said, and I still think his comments were shoe-horning in GW when it wasn't called for, but they're not really very outrageous, are they?
People on this board have a damned bad habit of posting soundbite crap they get from hyper-partisan websites then wrestling about it for days... we've got a thread still chugging along that revolves around a blatantly clipped up video and one of the subthreads has two guys screaming at each other about how comments were or weren't out of context and neither bothered to look them up, which took me about 10 seconds of googling, by the way.
And it doesn't matter if on looking them up the comments remain vicious -sometimes they do - what matters is that none of you ever bother to, and when someone posts up the whole context and it remains vile, or still pretty bad, it doesn't vindicate the people who were saying so before hand but were too lazy to look it up, and it doesn't excuse the wad of people who refuse to apologize or let it go when the context shows they were just wrong, because their egos and ideologies can't suffer just saying 'Yeah, I jumped the gun' and they lack the internal honesty to realize that the reason they were so happy to rip into the meat was because they already believe the opposition is evil and their own side virtuous and they don't really need or want evidence to support or contradict that.
And the fact of the matter is no one with any intellectual honesty has any business posting these kind of He/She crazy/evil soundbites without finding the entire statement first, and if they can't, they shouldn't post it at all.
People on this board have a damned bad habit of posting soundbite crap they get from hyper-partisan websites then wrestling about it for days... we've got a thread still chugging along that revolves around a blatantly clipped up video and one of the subthreads has two guys screaming at each other about how comments were or weren't out of context and neither bothered to look them up, which took me about 10 seconds of googling, by the way.
And it doesn't matter if on looking them up the comments remain vicious -sometimes they do - what matters is that none of you ever bother to, and when someone posts up the whole context and it remains vile, or still pretty bad, it doesn't vindicate the people who were saying so before hand but were too lazy to look it up, and it doesn't excuse the wad of people who refuse to apologize or let it go when the context shows they were just wrong, because their egos and ideologies can't suffer just saying 'Yeah, I jumped the gun' and they lack the internal honesty to realize that the reason they were so happy to rip into the meat was because they already believe the opposition is evil and their own side virtuous and they don't really need or want evidence to support or contradict that.
And the fact of the matter is no one with any intellectual honesty has any business posting these kind of He/She crazy/evil soundbites without finding the entire statement first, and if they can't, they shouldn't post it at all.
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- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on?
16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM
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Possibly different ones then the EESC president
16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM
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No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM
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Tsunami and climate change
17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM
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"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses"
18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM
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Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM
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Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing.
18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM
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A slightly misleading post
16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM
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Kind of missed the point there
16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM
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If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM
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Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM
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" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM
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Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM
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I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM
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Re: I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM
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You need to reread what I said
16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM
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No, I think you're still missing my point
16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
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No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it".
16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM
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I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means
16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM
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there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush
16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM
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So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did.
16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM
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well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it
16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM
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Um... he stated where he was going with it.
16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM
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At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard
16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM
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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe.
16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
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I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be
16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM
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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright
16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
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Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done
16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM
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Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless.
16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM
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lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters
17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM
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Yes: It makes it worse.
17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM
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no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally
17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM
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At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence.
18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM
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so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough
18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM
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