She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears.
Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM
two statements that are not even connected, of course you ignore the edit break, in a video that has already proven to be misleading. Watching the video give the impression that the elected officials were part of the protest screaming insults at people as they walk by. Since that part appears to misleading I have no faith that they wouldn't mislead with their editing. I doubt you would like what she said but to claim she is advocating murder based on the two snippets you saw is frankly stupid. As for your moaning that a congressman claiming that honoring an unabashed supporter of suicide is destroying America really dude you need to get over it because you know as well as I do that Pelosi (an actual leader of the party and not one you have never heard of)has said worse about better people.
Like Stephen said, we've had this discussion: She's an elected Republican, and thus incapable of wrongdoing, just as I'm a liberal and thus incapable of doing anything right. Hitler's a liberal, too, and Mubarak re-introducing private industry to Egypt makes him one as well, because those things fit your world view, and don't confuse you with facts, right? You decry "propaganda" and "editing" yet edit the factual record whenever convenient. I'm done; last word is yours, though since you're just going to deny the facts and accuse your opponents again I'm not sure why you'd bother.
I show you a US Congressmans urging us to support terrorists murdering innocents because he says they aren't "morally responsible" for their own actions, who's got FAMILY in a terrorist group but is "investigating" fellow Congressmen with NO known ties to terrorism and STILL defends terrorists he liks because "they didn't attack the United States". Your response? "Pelosi is worse!" Like I said, if a Republican leader was caught ripping the heads off puppies your only response would be "it's OK because liberals are worse" (which is pretty much how Peter King defends his own preferred brand of terrorism). Never freaking mind; I pray that attitude really is the fringe minority you claim, even though the evidence indicates otherwise. When they come to burn you at the stake for not sharing their religion, be sure to tell them you're not a liberal.
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This message last edited by Joel on 16/03/2011 at 02:22:57 AM
ignorance and hate in orange county, california
13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM
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actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night
13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM
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since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few
13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM
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The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress.
13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM
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and you believe the Tea Party is electing terrorist to office?
14/03/2011 03:17:49 PM
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"I know quite a few Marines who will be very happy to help these terrorists to paradise".
14/03/2011 07:17:02 PM
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which terrorist was she talking about? You don't even have context just a propaganda video
14/03/2011 09:13:22 PM
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That she directed it toward the whole event rather than specific people is the whole problem.
14/03/2011 09:53:29 PM
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really? you have unedited video of her doing that?
14/03/2011 11:01:57 PM
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She said, "what's going on over there is PURE UNADULTERATED evil".
15/03/2011 12:21:16 AM
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you sure seem to know alot about what she meant from just hearing two clips out of context
15/03/2011 02:47:44 PM
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No, I'm just not being obtuse about her clear meaning because she's on "my side".
15/03/2011 08:39:21 PM
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You could see where she was pointing? All I saw were flags
15/03/2011 08:45:02 PM
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Ooooh, she was pointing out her fellow flag waving REPUBLICANS are terrorists.
15/03/2011 09:01:13 PM
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and you know her well enough to know what she is saying
15/03/2011 09:37:16 PM
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I know ENGLISH well enough to know what she's saying; you're the only who thinks WHO said it matters
15/03/2011 10:54:04 PM
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I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM*
13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM
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Somewhat
13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM
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and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting
13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM
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A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders.
13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM
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How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event?
14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM
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Three, by my count.
14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM
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yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count
14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM
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Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter?
14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM
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no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims
14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM
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I'm aware of no such case, let alone people being elected to Congress for doing it.
14/03/2011 10:19:53 PM
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if you have evidience he supported verbal assults you should post it
14/03/2011 11:03:19 PM
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He MADE verbal assaults, and video of it was posted at the start of the thread.
15/03/2011 12:23:12 AM
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why is it hard to grasp the "destrtoying America" is a common phrase used by boht sides
15/03/2011 02:53:29 PM
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Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it.
15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM
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oh and here is the film making them victims being celibrated by Variety
14/03/2011 11:10:00 PM
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Funny how they got ARRESTED instead of elected to public office.
15/03/2011 12:25:17 AM
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and now the left is trying to tuen them into martyrs, which was my point. What was yours?
15/03/2011 02:57:04 PM
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Doesn't seem like "the left" is trying to turn them into martyrs, let alone electing them to office.
15/03/2011 08:39:12 PM
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the little piece of propeganda is likely to win SXSW film festival
15/03/2011 09:31:22 PM
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Which proves many people find sensationalized violence entertaining, and that Austinites are idiots.
15/03/2011 10:52:19 PM
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More than anything it seems like America is importing the "no good guys here" phenomenon.
13/03/2011 08:41:07 PM
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Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california
13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM
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The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff.
14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM
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do you believe there is single group the Tea Party?
14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM
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I believe a majority elected public officials encouraging violence against their own constituents.
14/03/2011 10:12:59 PM
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I thought you needed proof before accussing someone of a crime
14/03/2011 11:04:05 PM
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Whether or not this reaches the level of criminality is a good question.
15/03/2011 12:36:40 AM
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yes but first you will have to prove she in inciting violience
15/03/2011 07:55:47 PM
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She wants the Marines to assist US citizens to paradise; I think it's proven.
15/03/2011 08:39:29 PM
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no Joel isn't proven and if you think it is you need to look up what the proof means
15/03/2011 09:36:32 PM
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"Those terrorists" was a blanket statement directed at the people attending the fundraiser.
15/03/2011 10:52:51 PM
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prove it
16/03/2011 01:12:55 AM
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So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then.
16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM
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Is it acceptable....
14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM
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Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens.
14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM
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I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there?
14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM
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Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you.
14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM
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You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it
14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM
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No, just quoting it.
15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM
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so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe
15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM
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I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you?
15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM
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you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context
15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM
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You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it?
15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM
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no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said
16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM
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She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears.
16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM
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Simmer down
14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM
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Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails.
14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM
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no different than using a quote out of context
14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM
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Too clarify...
14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM
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