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So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM
Show me where she is saying she wants US citizens killed by Marines. But of course you can't and you know. You can show me where she says she thinks some Marines can help some terrorist to paradise but that is just quoting a bumper sticker. You assume you know who she was talking about but that is just your opinion you offer no proof.

Unless you can back up with what you are saying with something beyond your opinion then there isn't much point continuing this.

If she'd specifically directed it at proven terrorists, possibly even speakers at the event who have some ties to terrorism, again, I wouldn't object but, again, she chose to speak about everyone at the event, categorically. That's the problem: People, particularly in the government, holding all Muslims responsible for terrorist acts by a very few people who happen to be Muslims (while ignoring, in some cases supporting, terrorist acts by non-Muslims so long as AMERICA isn't among their victims).

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ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1366 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 968 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 820 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 765 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 549 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 841 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 407 Views
Somewhat - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 852 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 864 Views
Oh, agreed - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 846 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 968 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 903 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 825 Views
Three, by my count. - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 808 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 841 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 814 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 677 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 797 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 990 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 793 Views
I believe a majority elected public officials encouraging violence against their own constituents. - 14/03/2011 10:12:59 PM 875 Views
I thought you needed proof before accussing someone of a crime - 14/03/2011 11:04:05 PM 887 Views
Whether or not this reaches the level of criminality is a good question. - 15/03/2011 12:36:40 AM 1041 Views
yes but first you will have to prove she in inciting violience - 15/03/2011 07:55:47 PM 848 Views
She wants the Marines to assist US citizens to paradise; I think it's proven. - 15/03/2011 08:39:29 PM 767 Views
no Joel isn't proven and if you think it is you need to look up what the proof means - 15/03/2011 09:36:32 PM 766 Views
"Those terrorists" was a blanket statement directed at the people attending the fundraiser. - 15/03/2011 10:52:51 PM 967 Views
prove it - 16/03/2011 01:12:55 AM 938 Views
So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then. - 16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM 805 Views
Is it acceptable.... - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 786 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 823 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 833 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 798 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 675 Views
No, just quoting it. - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 769 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 774 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 824 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 694 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 946 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1010 Views
Simmer down - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 824 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 816 Views
Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 765 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 762 Views
no different than using a quote out of context - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 855 Views
Too clarify... - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 812 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 817 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 803 Views
Notice..... - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 754 Views
Re: Notice..... - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 824 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 362 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 719 Views

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