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Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM
you just got your panties in wad because you don't like that he was using people who were going to listen to an open supporter of terrorism give a speech. If don't agree with that is fine but let get real here the rhetoric is nothing new and no worse then we have been hearing about the governor of Wisconsin, from elected officials. Just because a group has religious reasons for their actions does not mean you can not oppose them. He doesn’t believe we should embrace those who support terrorism and he thinks the attitude that we should is destroying America. You don’t have to agree with but that doesn’t make your over the top rhetoric valid and it doesn’t give you the right to define what he meant to suite your personal bias.

THAT'S what's destroying America: People who see every fellow citien who disagrees with them as a threat to be hunted down, elect leaders who want the US Marines to help and then defend those leaders for saying so publicly. Rest assured, you're on their long list of liberals, traitors, non-Christians and commies; they just haven't gotten to you--yet. At least you've managed to admit that the guy verbally attacking the people who pay his salary was "using" his constituents to serve his own disgusting political agenda; now if we can just get you to admit how wrong that is we might start getting somewhere. Sure, you can oppose someone without attacking them solely because of their religion; maybe the GOP should disavow its Radical Republican roots and do that instead of embracing the Tea Party and its violent rhetoric.

Not that I expect it when a senior House member convenes hypocritical hearings because he says 85% of US mosques are run by terrorist sympathizers, while hoping we all forget he said killing civilians is "regrettable" but his beloved IRA isn't "morally responsible" because they're "struggl[ing]" against "imperialism". That's how bin Laden and his ilk rationalize murdering civilians, but instead of grilling Rep. King about his support for terrorism HE'S grilling Muslim Congressmen without even alleged links to terrorism, who've never publicly endorsed it the way King has. I guarantee that if Keith Ellison had family in Al Qaeda (as King had family in the IRA) we'd hear about it--Peter King would make sure. You can't simultaneously support and investigate terrorism without being a colossal hypocrite who cares less about terrorism than about it targeting the "proper" victims. Yet once again, these are the people you're so proud of putting in charge of the US House, the kind of self-serving support for violence at the expense of ones own constituents you defend, even from government leaders--as long as they have an (R) at the end of their name.
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"The fact is, the IRA never attacked the United States" so their terrorism is apparently OK.
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1384 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 991 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 842 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 785 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 555 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 858 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 413 Views
Somewhat - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 872 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 886 Views
Oh, agreed - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 866 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 996 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 921 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 848 Views
Three, by my count. - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 829 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 865 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 836 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 697 Views
I'm aware of no such case, let alone people being elected to Congress for doing it. - 14/03/2011 10:19:53 PM 936 Views
if you have evidience he supported verbal assults you should post it - 14/03/2011 11:03:19 PM 813 Views
He MADE verbal assaults, and video of it was posted at the start of the thread. - 15/03/2011 12:23:12 AM 814 Views
why is it hard to grasp the "destrtoying America" is a common phrase used by boht sides - 15/03/2011 02:53:29 PM 923 Views
Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it. - 15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM 843 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 811 Views
Is it acceptable.... - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 810 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 850 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 852 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 822 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 700 Views
No, just quoting it. - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 788 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 794 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 846 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 712 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 967 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1033 Views
Simmer down - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 846 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 837 Views
Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 787 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 786 Views
no different than using a quote out of context - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 878 Views
Too clarify... - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 835 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 841 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 822 Views
Notice..... - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 779 Views
Re: Notice..... - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 843 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 372 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 739 Views

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