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Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM
Simmer down Joel.

I, in no way, was equating either action or stereotypical belief. There was no mention, or even the subtle mention, of the two stereotypes being on equal footing.

I was pointing out that making a broad generalization is foolish.

~Jeordam

Generalizations are never perfect, because always broad, but a valid generalization remains possible so long as we understand it won't be a perfect fit for all people in every situation, just most people in most situations. So the city councilwomans generalization of all the fundraiser attendees as "terrorists" and "pure unadulterated evil" fails badly because only a small minority of Muslims have ever committed terrorism, and the US Representatives generalization that the fundraiser and its attendees are "destroying America" fails for the same reason. However, the fact that a majority elected them both to office not only supports but largely PROVES that a majority of the Tea Party supports racist leaders; the only question is how much of that majority is willing and able to admit it, and what they'll do if/when they finally accept that fact.

You guys elected these people, with us telling you they have no business running a hot dog stand and many of them belong in a psych ward; we're not responsible for what your hand hath wrought.
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1622 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 1233 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 1087 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 1033 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 692 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 1114 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 519 Views
Somewhat - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 1197 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 1131 Views
Oh, agreed - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 1125 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 1242 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 1160 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 1084 Views
Three, by my count. - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 1089 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 1114 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 1095 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 956 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 1050 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 1253 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 1072 Views
Is it acceptable.... - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 1057 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 1106 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 1098 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 1065 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 929 Views
No, just quoting it. - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 1033 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 1074 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 1130 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 963 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 1199 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1293 Views
Simmer down - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 1109 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 1100 Views
Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 1027 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 1021 Views
no different than using a quote out of context - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 1116 Views
Too clarify... - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 1061 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 1078 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 1075 Views
Notice..... - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Notice..... - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 1117 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 482 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 1008 Views

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