There are books with no pictures that are considered porn and there is spoken word audio that is considered porn so it is hardly a stretch to include lyrics if the lyrics explicitly talk about coming on people's faces and sticking your finger up their ass. The guy shouldn’t go to jail to 20 years but this was also no silly prank where he should just be slapped on the wrist either.
Really? I question the first part. I can buy a book with erotic stories in Barnes & Noble, shelved just like anything else, no proof of age required. Maybe I just can't think of any examples. Yes, song lyrics are censored, but clubs play the uncensored versions and that doesn't turn them into sleaze shops. Spoken or written word, while it could be explicit and pornographic, just doesn't equal pictoral representation and is not judged in the same way. I welcome examples to the contrary.
Actually the word pornography best translates as (I love you wiki) "a written description or illustration of prostitutes or prostitution." However one defines porn, and text-only usually is included, obscenity is another matter, and many text-only obscenity cases have been tried in the US. Kaplan v. California, 1973, determined that "Obscene material in book form is not entitled to any First Amendment protection merely because it has no pictorial content." and that still stands.
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musician jailed over youtube prank -- faces 20+years plus child porn charges
- 20/02/2011 07:55:33 AM
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Mmmm, there is more to it . At first I was thinking it was much ado about nothing.
- 20/02/2011 03:31:51 PM
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This explains what happened better and lets me feel a little mercy for the guy.
- 20/02/2011 03:59:41 PM
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as stated, the children were never exposed to the "adult only" performance
- 20/02/2011 04:35:32 PM
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So I guess the moral of this story is think before you put things on the internet. *NM*
- 20/02/2011 06:10:32 PM
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His only mistake was not getting them to sign something, allowing to be posted on youtube
- 21/02/2011 01:51:30 AM
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kids don't have that right. The parents would have needed to sign. *NM*
- 21/02/2011 07:24:04 PM
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The lyrics were hilarious? The sample I read and posted had nothing funny in them...maybe you can
- 22/02/2011 12:35:05 AM
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Well ... from this parents perspective
- 21/02/2011 12:33:25 PM
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For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages.
- 21/02/2011 01:50:19 PM
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Re: For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages.
- 21/02/2011 03:46:48 PM
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Tashmere's first reply above has a sample of the lyrics and how they were cut with the video. *NM*
- 21/02/2011 03:58:35 PM
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Agreed, that's really the only thing I can see that he can be sued for here. *NM*
- 25/02/2011 10:36:53 PM
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"Oh, I didn't actually abuse any of those kids."
- 21/02/2011 02:37:00 PM
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Agreed. But being an asshat is not a crime. *NM*
- 21/02/2011 05:02:59 PM
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no but using children to create sexually explicit material is
- 21/02/2011 07:36:32 PM
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Yes, this was disgusting, but since when does dirty lyrics = porn?
- 22/02/2011 04:18:05 PM
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The written word can be considered porn so why not song lyrics?
- 22/02/2011 05:04:37 PM
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It can?
- 23/02/2011 04:34:40 AM
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Yep
- 23/02/2011 05:04:49 AM
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Actually, obscenity is one of the most poorly defined concepts in US law.
- 26/02/2011 09:57:21 PM
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Am I the only one thinking of The Exorcist here?
- 25/02/2011 10:40:58 PM
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yes you are the only one thinking that
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- 25/02/2011 11:33:53 PM
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- 25/02/2011 11:33:53 PM
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You gotta admit it doesn't get much worse than that in terms of exposing children to obscenity.
- 26/02/2011 12:13:46 AM
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Not sure if anyone else has asked this...
- 25/02/2011 01:19:08 PM
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kids are video taped all the time at schools
- 25/02/2011 02:05:38 PM
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School staff is one thing, outside sources are another.
- 25/02/2011 02:56:20 PM
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most states run background checks and this guy may have had one run on him
- 25/02/2011 03:19:58 PM
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he got permission from the teacher and the kids' parents before the original filming session
- 25/02/2011 03:20:30 PM
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they probably didn't think he would it to make a "funny" video
- 26/02/2011 07:43:59 PM
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show one example the song was about sex with children and I might agree *NM*
- 26/02/2011 09:23:44 PM
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If you try hard enough you can believe whatever you want
- 26/02/2011 10:09:45 PM
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and if you're determined to railroad someone none of the facts matter
- 26/02/2011 11:36:42 PM
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If I put out a video that had you giggling as I sung about cumming on your face you would be fine?
- 27/02/2011 09:09:25 PM
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of course not, but the 1st amendment says you have the right
- 27/02/2011 11:02:42 PM
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the courts ruled a long time ago that the 1st amendment does not cover all speech
- 28/02/2011 10:58:38 PM
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