I'm inclined to agree with the idea of using Syria and, to a lesser extent, Iran, as "bellwethers". Whether we're seeing genuine pro-democracy protests or simply anti-Western overthrows of pro-Western governments using popular discontent as a means to an end may be answered by whether the tide turns against all violently repressive regimes or simply pro-Western ones. It's all well to say, as some have, that Hezbollahs takeover in Syria hasn't brought in Sharia law (after a whole MONTH, almost!) but the fact remains it's not exactly a charge toward democracy, it's the replacement of a government that allowed the CIA to conduct torture illegal in the US with a terrorist organization that will only increase the state sponsored terror that put Syria on the "Axis of Evil" (why we had a terrorist sponsor helping us torture people to stop terrorism is something you'll have to ask Mr. Bush). Beck's off his nut, as usual, but if this "grass roots" "region wide" "pro-democracy" movement merely transforms violently repressive pro-Western regimes into violently repressive anti-Western ones, while leaving already violently repressive anti-Western regimes not only unweakened but strengthened it does raise the very real question of whether the rest of the world has an accurate read on what's going on here. There really are worse people in the world than America. Honest. Taking their side just because they share a distaste for the US is as dangerously foolish as, say, calling Mubarak a socialist just because a liberal says getting rid of him won't automatically improve anything.
Popular uprisings in Muslim countries do not always lead to repressive theocracies.
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/Media: Guardian's take on funny Americans' take on Egypt
03/02/2011 09:32:52 PM
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I think you should replace "Fox" by "funny Americans".
03/02/2011 09:44:26 PM
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Pfft. Synonyms.
03/02/2011 09:46:42 PM
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Well, you'll get accusations and sour reactions anyway.
03/02/2011 09:50:28 PM
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Re: Well, you'll get accusations and sour reactions anyway.
03/02/2011 09:52:20 PM
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This is true. We'll just have to leave it to Glenn Beck to provide the poetry, now. *NM*
03/02/2011 09:54:59 PM
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Re: Pfft. Synonyms.
03/02/2011 09:51:30 PM
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Re: Pfft. Synonyms.
03/02/2011 09:52:56 PM
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Re: Pfft. Synonyms.
03/02/2011 09:56:34 PM
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That leads to the interesting question of how you define "anti-American".
03/02/2011 09:54:13 PM
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Re: That leads to the interesting question of how you define "anti-American".
03/02/2011 10:21:56 PM
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I think you should replace "funny Americans" with "blowhard pundits who don't deserve time of day" *NM*
04/02/2011 12:28:22 AM
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I posted earlier with observations on how idiotic Fox is sounding generally on the Egypt situation.
04/02/2011 02:15:23 AM
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I saw Guardian use the phrase balanced coverage and stopped
04/02/2011 06:20:31 PM
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You always do this.
05/02/2011 01:28:11 AM
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It is the irony I find funny
07/02/2011 04:03:38 PM
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That after watching that you think the GUARDIAN'S the one over the top here?
08/02/2011 04:02:04 PM
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sorry the Guardian is shit
08/02/2011 04:21:09 PM
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Maybe, but I'll need evidence; regardless, that's not what this is about, is it?
08/02/2011 04:48:06 PM
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Oh, is Beck a "socialism fan favor[ing] the violent dicator since he can bring order and subsidies"?
05/02/2011 08:04:17 AM
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So you are saying you have a lot in common with Glen Beck?
07/02/2011 04:04:41 PM
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Not really.
08/02/2011 03:46:10 PM
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it is easy to understand why Beck wants to defend Mubarak
08/02/2011 04:23:11 PM
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By the Grace of God, Glenn Beck and Alex Jones do not represent America, or even most of the right.
05/02/2011 08:30:26 AM
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Did find this linked article at your link interesting:
05/02/2011 09:02:44 AM
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Here's a link for you
05/02/2011 06:28:42 PM
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Been over all of this before, so I'll just point out that Lebanon is not Syria.
*NM*
05/02/2011 07:20:10 PM
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Oops....
06/02/2011 12:03:27 AM
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Gah. "Someone is wrong on the internet!", and all that, and I can't resist.
06/02/2011 12:34:59 AM
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I know that feeling well.
06/02/2011 01:50:41 AM
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America shouldn't take the blame for Fox! That's Rupert Murdoch's, the Aussie's, fault! *NM*
06/02/2011 03:16:04 AM
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