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He mainly seems to bring close diplomatic ties to the US and alternatives to the Islamic Brotherhood - Edit 2

Before modification by Joel at 29/01/2011 01:04:41 AM

Nobody really gets freedom without blood shed. The people of Egypt have just as much right to rise up in violent protest against a dictator as anyone else. Now if they are just smashing things and breaking windows then no one should support them but if they truly are trying to bring reform to their country ans you support democracy then yes you should support them. We were willing to shed blood to get democracy. Hell we are shedding blood as I type this to try and bring other people democracy.

But by all means take the other side because you don't like everyone who MIGHT be on Mubaraks (personally, I haven't decided; both sides look pretty ugly to me, but that's the Mid-East for you). Based on my admittedly limited understanding of the situation, a primary and long standing complaint against Mubarak is that when he privatized many formerly nationalized industries he favored and further enriched a wealthy aristocracy, the very people who were first against the wall in the Bolshevik Revolution to which I likened violent revolution for the sake of violence.

I'm not yet convinced this a simple matter of a popular democratic uprising on behalf of freedom. If it becomes a successful revolution, which seems quite possible, it's far more likely to produce an anti-Western militant theocracy with MORE nationalized industries than it is to create some sort of capitalist paradise. But, hey, small price to pay for disagreeing with a position I've not yet decided to take, right? Maybe if we slit each others throats over imagined differences bin Laden won't have to bother.

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