No, I'd blame the shooter first and the mullahs shouting, "JIHAD111" second, as I always do. - Edit 1
Before modification by Joel at 20/01/2011 03:12:22 AM
Because based on the evidence, a jihadist shooter would have as much a claim to have been influenced by Palin as Loughner has.
Don't you get it? Loughner isn't aligned to Palin's worldview at all, as far as all evidence has been able to establish.
In fact, he is probably closer to Gifford's point of view than Palin's.
Loughner was no more influenced by Palin's "rhetoric" than that guy from the Fort Hood shooting was.
Don't you get it? Loughner isn't aligned to Palin's worldview at all, as far as all evidence has been able to establish.
In fact, he is probably closer to Gifford's point of view than Palin's.
Loughner was no more influenced by Palin's "rhetoric" than that guy from the Fort Hood shooting was.
Seriously, we're still doing this? Loughner was more liberal than conservative even though he read Ayn Rand (whose name is born by the new Tea Party Senator from KY), Hitler and Nietzsche (whose heir Hitler claimed, rightly or not, to be) before exercising his Second Amendment rights against one of the most liberal Congressmen in the state that gave us "extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice", all because of his anti-government paranoia. But because he also happened to read Marx he's somehow a liberal despite, lessee... SEVEN examples of conservative beliefs. Does he espouse seven liberal principles? I'll give you hatred of religion, but that's it.
I agree that he's apolitical, but he is closer to the right than the left, and was ripe for all the "Obama's a madrasa trained terrorist born in Kenya, not HI, and must be stopped at any cost to save America" BS constantly spewing from far right demagogues since before he took the Oath of Office. To say Loughner maintained a FB account (much like Palin) and another on MySpace in between buying guns and buying conspiracies but was somehow oblivious to the kind of paranoid militant rhetoric with which he would've been right at home is rather difficult to believe. It hasn't been proven, but stop kidding yourself, man.
Oh, and I happened to be living about 50 miles from Ft. Hood when that shooting occurred, mere months after someone flew a plane into an IRS building 30 miles from me in the other direction, so let's not go there. The former was a right wing fundie who happened to believe the US government at war with the Muslim rather than Christian God, and the other espoused both left and right wing principles but, IMHO, tended to hold more liberal ones. Both believed themselves wrongfully persecuted, but the first has been established to be a religious fanatic and I'm aware of no links between the latter and far left demagoguery (though he's still a liberal guilty of murder in my book, and none of his stated motives justies that).