Actually, I tend to agree, 'cos I somewhat agree with rt it diagnoses symptoms better than problems
Joel Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 11:53:48 PM
Also, the section on college students irks me a bit. I didn't know anyone who was in such close contact with their parents at school. Maybe one in a hundred students are like that, and maybe they really annoy the professors, but it's not common. And the use of cell phones to set up study sessions is a completely silly and trivial complaint.
That last part struck me even as I read it, but the spectacle of overinvolved parents interfering on their childrens behalf but to their long term detriment is not new, just more common. Colleges aren't school districts, so there aren't nearly as many parents capable of that level of interference, but that only means the erstwhile terror of the PTA is generally unable to bully university presidents, not unwilling. It's anecdotal, but the article references an example of just how pernicious that can be when the will is accompanied by the ability.
I guess part of me reads that section and feels vaguely self-conscious, because I was one of those kids who went off to university and became overwhelmed by anxiety and unable to complete my studies. Is this because I am a wimp? Because my parents over-sanitized my childhood?
Wait, no. I gloried in the baking of mud pies, fell out of trees, got a job at 14, and received plenty of physical discipline. My childhood was actually very old-fashioned. The real world, not so much.
Wait, no. I gloried in the baking of mud pies, fell out of trees, got a job at 14, and received plenty of physical discipline. My childhood was actually very old-fashioned. The real world, not so much.
*nods* I can see that, too, and there were parts of that I felt did and didn't apply to me, but if any of it is true the salient point that failure must be owned to be overcome certainly is.
The article as a whole contains some very good/interesting points, but I don't think the link between a more old-fashioned childhood and psychological well-being is so simple. Children need a balance between comfort and toughness. Stray too far in either direction, or keep them cordoned off from the social/technological demands of the world, and they will have difficulty functioning as versatile adults. Also remember that we now expect any given person to be capable in a huge variety of different social/professional settings, which is not an easy thing to ask. Maybe anxiety was less severe in the past partly because there were more defined pathways and more familiar environments for young people.
"Children need a balance between comfort and toughness" is the real impact the article had on me, despite the fact I don't think that was the authors intent. The Joan Crawford School of Parenting has well documented flaws, but the Purple Dinosaur School has flaws just as fatal if less immediately obvious. Life is neither constant sunshine nor rain, and everyone should learn and deal with that sooner rather than later.
Oh, and I had Dr. Joffe (UIUC) as a psychologist for a while. Did not like. He spent my "therapy sessions" ranting to me about the problems of binge drinking on campus, despite the fact that I have always been a moderate to non-drinker and didn't really care.
Seems like a rather bad person to be in charge of their suicide prevention program then; isn't listening rather than lecturing to patients kind of Psychology 101? Sorry he was so useless to you.
Good to hear from you again though; I'm in and out of FB so little that it's been too long. How's Seattle, the boyfriend, the pippy (a pippy is puppy named "Pippin", you see ) and, of course, you? Not missing lake effect snow, I bet. You and April manage a visit yet?
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Child Psychology: Are Todays Parents Mental?
06/01/2011 11:21:53 PM
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Very interesting article, thanks for posting.
07/01/2011 01:36:51 AM
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Welcome, and I'll pass that along to the person through whom I learned of it.
07/01/2011 02:19:07 AM
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I just began thinking about how my parents raised me as I was reading this.
07/01/2011 02:24:33 AM
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The middle way seems best; 'grats to you and your folks.
07/01/2011 06:35:50 PM
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Thanks Joel. And I agree with you that most of the time, the middle way is best.
07/01/2011 06:52:10 PM
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meh
07/01/2011 02:34:47 PM
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I disagree; even to the extent that's the real problem it's still down to indulgent parents.
07/01/2011 04:52:26 PM
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exterem paretnal involment is being overstated
08/01/2011 03:10:09 AM
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It's extreme indulgence, not involvement.
08/01/2011 03:44:43 AM
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extreme indulgence is a problem but with one exception those were not good examples
08/01/2011 04:47:05 PM
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"Kids need to feel badly sometimes"? What should we do? Dip their fingers in acid?
07/01/2011 03:00:17 PM
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It would work, and definitely put an end to all this touchy-feeliness.
07/01/2011 04:47:16 PM
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I would classify editing the N-word out of Huckleberry Finn to apply to this issue...
07/01/2011 11:26:05 PM
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"Undiplomatic" is one thing, "inflammatory" quite another.
07/01/2011 11:51:03 PM
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Re: "Undiplomatic" is one thing, "inflammatory" quite another.
09/01/2011 12:20:47 AM
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If the stakes are small or there's no alternative I don't mind going with your gut.
09/01/2011 01:20:42 AM
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Re: If the stakes are small or there's no alternative I don't mind going with your gut.
09/01/2011 01:28:28 AM
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Sadly so.
09/01/2011 01:32:23 AM
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Re: Sadly so.
09/01/2011 01:41:39 AM
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Hadn't seen that, no.
09/01/2011 11:21:20 PM
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Re: Hadn't seen that, no.
10/01/2011 04:59:53 PM
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Does M$ have U2 and Steves permission to use their names in that patent application?
10/01/2011 07:46:54 PM
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Re: Does M$ have U2 and Steves permission to use their names in that patent application?
10/01/2011 09:54:50 PM
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well your reply shows us what we end up with if we have over indulgent parnets
10/01/2011 04:08:38 PM
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It's a good article, but contains a bit of oversimplification.
11/01/2011 09:36:35 PM
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Actually, I tend to agree, 'cos I somewhat agree with rt it diagnoses symptoms better than problems
11/01/2011 11:53:48 PM
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