well me are talking about the US right and left not the European one - Edit 1
Before modification by random thoughts at 11/01/2011 02:20:16 PM
I can't think of any creed of the Nazi movement that fits the American mainstream right better then it fits the American left. The Nazi were militaristic and the right tends to be more militaristic then the left but when it comes to the role of government and the economy there really isn't much there. Far as I can tell the whole thing is a lie created by liberal college professors so they could some crazies on the right and not have have them all on the left.
Have you ever considered that maybe it is the US which has an unusual definition of "right-wing"? Any attempt to define "left" and "right" across country borders will encounter difficulties, and no party will ever perfectly fit the mould - not that there even is a well-defined mould. But while some people in the US seem to think that right-wing is synonymous to "small government" and left-wing to "big government", the international definitions, as ill-defined as they are, are a bit more complicated than that. The similarities between the Nazis and the Soviet Union or other communist states have always been obvious, and those liberal college professors of yours have never denied that, but believe it or not, the reasoning why the Nazis are considered far right while the Soviet Union is considered far left is in fact based on political science and not on some "let's try and stick the right wing with the Nazis" conspiracy.
And sorry the simply fact that you have a new country mile and a half doesn't make your version the right one. Since we are talking US politics our definition of right and left is really the only one that matters. The Nazi party has more in common from a political philosophy point of view with American left.
I was just joking about the professors (at least mostly) but I don't think they are wrong. The nazies and the communist are opposite ends of the socialist movement not opposite ends of the political spectrum. Using the nazies to define the political spectrum and misleading ans inaccurate.
But that is another argument I was referring to his friends claim that he was a liberal more than his reading habits. His general political mindset seems closer to a left wing anarchist than a right wing isolationist but to be honest neither one of those extremes really has much to do with the mainstream beliefs of either party and part of what is causing this climate that everyone is so worried about is the sustained effort to try and define the other party by its extremes. And yes both sides are equally guilty as we saw with all of the republicans trying to run against Pelosi n matter where they were and all of the democrats trying to run against O’Donnell. It is just the left's unending whining about about that gets on my nerves.
Yes, I quite agree about the attempts to define the other party by its extremes. That's done in politics all over the world, of course, but in a country with only two parties it has a tendency of turning even uglier than elsewhere.
The problem with Common knowledge is it is so often wrong. (This event was not about politics is was a crazy man with a gun. the fact that we make it so easy for crazy people to get guns should have been the direction the left went with this.) But I find it very odd that so many people think the US is the one with political violence problem when we have almost none and Europe seems to have a violent protest with people being killed and injured on pretty regular basis. Where do you see US politics turning ugly as compared to elsewhere? Which large country has less political violence then the US does? Compared the Europe we are a freaking beacon of sanity and calm.