I can't think of any creed of the Nazi movement that fits the American mainstream right better then it fits the American left. The Nazi were militaristic and the right tends to be more militaristic then the left but when it comes to the role of government and the economy there really isn't much there. Far as I can tell the whole thing is a lie created by liberal college professors so they could some crazies on the right and not have have them all on the left.
Have you ever considered that maybe it is the US which has an unusual definition of "right-wing"? Any attempt to define "left" and "right" across country borders will encounter difficulties, and no party will ever perfectly fit the mould - not that there even is a well-defined mould. But while some people in the US seem to think that right-wing is synonymous to "small government" and left-wing to "big government", the international definitions, as ill-defined as they are, are a bit more complicated than that. The similarities between the Nazis and the Soviet Union or other communist states have always been obvious, and those liberal college professors of yours have never denied that, but believe it or not, the reasoning why the Nazis are considered far right while the Soviet Union is considered far left is in fact based on political science and not on some "let's try and stick the right wing with the Nazis" conspiracy.
But that is another argument I was referring to his friends claim that he was a liberal more than his reading habits. His general political mindset seems closer to a left wing anarchist than a right wing isolationist but to be honest neither one of those extremes really has much to do with the mainstream beliefs of either party and part of what is causing this climate that everyone is so worried about is the sustained effort to try and define the other party by its extremes. And yes both sides are equally guilty as we saw with all of the republicans trying to run against Pelosi n matter where they were and all of the democrats trying to run against O’Donnell. It is just the left's unending whining about about that gets on my nerves.
Yes, I quite agree about the attempts to define the other party by its extremes. That's done in politics all over the world, of course, but in a country with only two parties it has a tendency of turning even uglier than elsewhere.
The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel
10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM
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The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity
10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM
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Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color.
10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM
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nice try but no
10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...."
10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM
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no you are just wearing Danny's blinders
11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM
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I try to steer clear of personal attacks.
11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM
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I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them
11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM
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I didn't skip your points, I disputed them.
11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM
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you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support
11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM
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Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize.
10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM
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they will neither back track or apologize
10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM
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I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about.
10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM
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not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine
10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM
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Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman.
10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate
11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM
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Indeed I am.
11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM
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it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection
11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM
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wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though?
11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM
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Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making.
11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM
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Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right?
11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM
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Yes, though it's true that is the key part.
11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM
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can one posistion define you as being far right or far left?
11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM
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One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples.
11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM
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... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed:
10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM
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They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much
10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM
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It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings".
10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM
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Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism
10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM
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Deep sigh.
10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM
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well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one
11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM
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Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left.
11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow
11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM
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A thousand times no.
11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM
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Bucnd and the Nazi part are and never were associtaed with what we consider American right politics
11/01/2011 11:34:46 PM
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What you do/n't "consider" part of the left/right is precisely the problem here.
12/01/2011 01:06:56 AM
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Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did.
10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM
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If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me
11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM
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In a word, no.
11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM
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really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left?
11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM
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I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it.
11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM
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I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong.
10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM
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First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them
11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM
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For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast.
11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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No they are in no way the same
11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM
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They're precisely the same in tone.
11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM
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the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument
11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM
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Enough.
11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM
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your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry
11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM
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Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives...
10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM
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Which conseratives rushed to frame this for poltical gain?
11/01/2011 02:19:55 PM
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But that's how it always goes:"The animal is so treacherous; when it is attacked, it defends itself"
18/01/2011 03:15:35 PM
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