Extreme parental involvement is being over stated. Yes parents do make watch very young children more closely and interact them more then parents used to but you are going to needs actual evidence if you want to sell me on the idea that is hurting children in anything but the most extreme cases.
The arguments sound good but they ignore the reality of most modern American families. The argument that non-competitive soccer is causing children to be social impaired may make sense on a shallow level but it ignores that fact that those same kids spend about about ten time more time fighting for toys at daycare then they do being told to play nice at soccer games. Besides how non-competitive soccer is for all but the youngest players is grossly overrated.
For all the evidence I can see it simply isn't true that most parents are grossly involved with older children lives. Yes there are extreme cases but I would guess that the number of teenagers suffering from excessive parental involvement is dwarfed by the numbers suffering form under involvement. There seems to be a lot of numbers on my side to support that argument from teach drug use and pregnancy to runaway bullying on social networks.
Sorry there just is no there there. What do you think the odds are that the guy who wrote the story doesn't even have kids
The arguments sound good but they ignore the reality of most modern American families. The argument that non-competitive soccer is causing children to be social impaired may make sense on a shallow level but it ignores that fact that those same kids spend about about ten time more time fighting for toys at daycare then they do being told to play nice at soccer games. Besides how non-competitive soccer is for all but the youngest players is grossly overrated.
For all the evidence I can see it simply isn't true that most parents are grossly involved with older children lives. Yes there are extreme cases but I would guess that the number of teenagers suffering from excessive parental involvement is dwarfed by the numbers suffering form under involvement. There seems to be a lot of numbers on my side to support that argument from teach drug use and pregnancy to runaway bullying on social networks.
Sorry there just is no there there. What do you think the odds are that the guy who wrote the story doesn't even have kids
Delinquency, as I noted, isn't a counter example to that, it's furher evidence for it. You may not be guilty of it, but there are plenty of parents out there eager to intervene on BEHALF of ill behaved children but far more reluctant to lay down the law when they know the kid's out of line. Sometimes it's misguided love, and sometimes it's proud refusal to admit any child raised by THEM could ever err, but the effect is the same: Any outsider challenge to their child is ruthlessly resisted, while all excesses of the child are either obliviously ignored or actually condoned. Children sitting on their butts waiting to be entertained are as due to parents who allow that preference as due to parents who can't be bothered to engage their kids or encourage them to engage others. It's the opposite extreme of the Mommy Dearests whose children live in terror of them but, whether because of societal change or simply because less obvious, abuse via indulgence seems to be on the rise. Or do you mean to tell me you've never been subjected to the spectacle of a 10 year old cussing out a parent in front of a dozen people? That happens because parents tolerate it, and they tolerate it because they don't want to face the fact THEIR child did something wrong.
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Child Psychology: Are Todays Parents Mental?
- 06/01/2011 11:21:53 PM
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Very interesting article, thanks for posting.
- 07/01/2011 01:36:51 AM
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Welcome, and I'll pass that along to the person through whom I learned of it. 
- 07/01/2011 02:19:07 AM
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- 07/01/2011 02:19:07 AM
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I just began thinking about how my parents raised me as I was reading this.
- 07/01/2011 02:24:33 AM
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The middle way seems best; 'grats to you and your folks.
- 07/01/2011 06:35:50 PM
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Thanks Joel. And I agree with you that most of the time, the middle way is best.
- 07/01/2011 06:52:10 PM
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meh
- 07/01/2011 02:34:47 PM
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I disagree; even to the extent that's the real problem it's still down to indulgent parents.
- 07/01/2011 04:52:26 PM
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exterem paretnal involment is being overstated
- 08/01/2011 03:10:09 AM
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It's extreme indulgence, not involvement.
- 08/01/2011 03:44:43 AM
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extreme indulgence is a problem but with one exception those were not good examples
- 08/01/2011 04:47:05 PM
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"Kids need to feel badly sometimes"? What should we do? Dip their fingers in acid?
- 07/01/2011 03:00:17 PM
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It would work, and definitely put an end to all this touchy-feeliness. 
- 07/01/2011 04:47:16 PM
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- 07/01/2011 04:47:16 PM
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I would classify editing the N-word out of Huckleberry Finn to apply to this issue...
- 07/01/2011 11:26:05 PM
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"Undiplomatic" is one thing, "inflammatory" quite another.
- 07/01/2011 11:51:03 PM
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Re: "Undiplomatic" is one thing, "inflammatory" quite another.
- 09/01/2011 12:20:47 AM
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If the stakes are small or there's no alternative I don't mind going with your gut.
- 09/01/2011 01:20:42 AM
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Re: If the stakes are small or there's no alternative I don't mind going with your gut.
- 09/01/2011 01:28:28 AM
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Sadly so.
- 09/01/2011 01:32:23 AM
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Re: Sadly so.
- 09/01/2011 01:41:39 AM
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Hadn't seen that, no.
- 09/01/2011 11:21:20 PM
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Re: Hadn't seen that, no.
- 10/01/2011 04:59:53 PM
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Does M$ have U2 and Steves permission to use their names in that patent application? 
- 10/01/2011 07:46:54 PM
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- 10/01/2011 07:46:54 PM
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Re: Does M$ have U2 and Steves permission to use their names in that patent application?
- 10/01/2011 09:54:50 PM
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- 10/01/2011 09:54:50 PM
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. *NM*
well your reply shows us what we end up with if we have over indulgent parnets
- 10/01/2011 04:08:38 PM
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It's a good article, but contains a bit of oversimplification.
- 11/01/2011 09:36:35 PM
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Actually, I tend to agree, 'cos I somewhat agree with rt it diagnoses symptoms better than problems
- 11/01/2011 11:53:48 PM
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