There were too many rivalries to service them all.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 22/12/2010 08:02:30 AM
Some of it was to preserve historic rivalries (Dallas should stay in the NFC East, for example, and I say that as a Dallas fan who doesn't really enjoy playing six games against a Division that annually has two playoff teams when it doesn't have three). Some of it is just insane, the most glaring example being the AFC North/South/East:
North:
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Cincinatti
Baltimore
East:
New England
New York
Miami
Buffalo
As with the north, there are a bunch of rivalries preserved here. As far as geography goes, Miami is the arch-rival of the Jets, while they retain the geographical rivalries with NE & Buffalo. Indianapolis was only the odd man out, as was Tennessee in the North. In both cases, if you HAD to cut one team from the division to get them down to four, the ones that left were the least disruptive to rivalries. SOMEone had to occupy the new division after all, and they could not simply cram one full of expansion franchises and present it as a reasonable & competitive grouping. They'd have ended up with the situation that exists in the NFC west now, but without even that division's history of past successes to offer hope (they HAVE won six Super Bowls and 10 NFC championships, after all).New England
New York
Miami
Buffalo
South:
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Houston
Jacksonville
See anything wrong? Like the fact Indys historic rivalries with the rest of the East were shot to hell by placing a team on the Great Lakes in the "South"? Wouldn't putting Miami in the South and Indy in the East make a helluva lot more sense? Or put them in the North and Baltimore in the East; that would make even more sense because it retains Miamis old Division rivals. Instead, Indy and the erstwhile Oilers were removed from the Divisions with their historic rivals and put into one with two teams that didn't exist twenty years ago, which, IMHO, has a whole lot to do with why Indy is the winningest regular season team of the decade (again, much like it was easy for SF to make the playoffs every year when they had one less divisional opponent and the ones they DID have all sucked; playing four games against the '80s Cards and Saints teams would give anyone a leg up on the playoffs).
Recall, however, that that description applies to your Cowboys as well - the Cardinals were in the EAST until the realignment. And IIRC, didn't five different teams win the old NFC West in the last five years of its existance? If the realignment intended to cure any sort of competitive disparity, it was not in the NFC west, where Atlanta, Carolina, SanFran, St Louis & New Orleans took turns winning the division (and going to the conference championship fairly often, IIRC) over a five year period. As far as Indy & Tenn., it could be perceived as punishment for their movements. The teams that were moved out of their divisions in the realignments were either among the newest teams or teams that had moved. The AFC West kept Denver, San Diego, Kansas City & Oakland (who moved, but at least went back) and jettisoned newbie Seattle, the East kept Buffalo, NY, NE & Miami and ditched the mover. In the Central, they offloaded the expansion and of their two moving teams, retained the one that technically speaking reoccupied an abandoned city, while ditching the one that had most recently moved (the Oilers and Titans played in different cities, though I can't recall who was Memphis and which was Nashville). Indianapolis
Tennessee
Houston
Jacksonville
See anything wrong? Like the fact Indys historic rivalries with the rest of the East were shot to hell by placing a team on the Great Lakes in the "South"? Wouldn't putting Miami in the South and Indy in the East make a helluva lot more sense? Or put them in the North and Baltimore in the East; that would make even more sense because it retains Miamis old Division rivals. Instead, Indy and the erstwhile Oilers were removed from the Divisions with their historic rivals and put into one with two teams that didn't exist twenty years ago, which, IMHO, has a whole lot to do with why Indy is the winningest regular season team of the decade (again, much like it was easy for SF to make the playoffs every year when they had one less divisional opponent and the ones they DID have all sucked; playing four games against the '80s Cards and Saints teams would give anyone a leg up on the playoffs).
The NFC was the same; the East ditched Arizona who had moved, the Central unloaded the newer Buccanneers, and the West kept its two oldest franchises, sending the newer Saints, Falcons and Panthers out. In the case of St. Louis, as with Baltimore & Oakland, you have a moving team that reoccupied an abandoned city staying in place.
Unfortunately, we just DID a realignment; Seattle isn't even in the same Conference anymore (and, boy, does Denver miss playing them twice a year right now... ) so don't hold your breath. Until we have eight 5 team Divisions another realignment is unlikely.
An ideal geographic representation would be something like:
AFC East
New York, New England, Buffalo, Baltimore
AFC North
Pittsburg, Indianapolis, Cinncinnati, Cleveland
AFC South
Denver, San Diego, Oakland, Kansas City
AFC West
Jacksonville, Houston, Tennessee, Miami
The East becomes a monster division, the North provides 4 of the last 6 conference champions and the South and West are jokes. Not to mention sacrificing the historic NY-Miami rivalry, and Cleveland-Baltimore enmity.
NFC East
New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina
NFC North
Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay
NFC South
Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Dallas
NFC West
San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona, St Louis
Note that Atlanta or Tampa would work equally well in the East. St Louis doesn't really fit in with any group, but since no one questions a Missouri team in the AFC West, it would do just as well in the NFC west.
Really, the only changes needed to "perfect" the geography is a threeway swap in the AFC and a Dallas-for-coastal-state-team in the NFC. Or you could scrap the conferences and come up with eight regional four-team groupings:
Northeast Division
New York, New York, New England, Buffalo
Atlantic Division
Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina, Baltimore
Southeast Division
Miami, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville
Central Division
New Orleans, Tennessee, St. Louis, Kansas City
Southwest Division
Dallas, Houston, Arizona, Denver
Pacific Division
San Francisco, Oakland, Seattle, San Diego
Old Northwest Division
Pittsburg, Indianapolis, Cinncinnati, Cleveland
North Division
Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay
You can have history or geography. The current set-up does as good a job as possible of giving us both. The history lost in the realignment is minimal, and cross-country travel within a division is likewise minimal. BTW, I note that my proposed geographical lineup would be reasonably competitive this year, though the Pacific would still suck balls, and the Northeast would become a rather nasty one. Aside from maybe the Southwest, every other division has a couple of current contenders.
Cannoli
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Deus Vult!
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Worst division in the history of the NFL?
22/12/2010 04:08:33 AM
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Re: Worst division in the history of the NFL?
22/12/2010 04:35:01 AM
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I don't think anyone's complaining about a January game in St. Louis instead of Green Bay or NJ
22/12/2010 05:15:15 AM
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Realignment was poorly executed, but the NFC West at least makes some sense.
22/12/2010 06:34:10 AM
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There were too many rivalries to service them all.
22/12/2010 08:02:30 AM
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Normaly I'd agree, but those teams are so bad whomever plays them has a first week Bye.
22/12/2010 07:06:03 AM
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They're all at least two games below .500 which means it took you more than a week to notice this.
22/12/2010 05:14:15 AM
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