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Much as you are using the healthcare system. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 05:55:40 PM
You don't get a refund on it, because it is being used for defense (either overtly or through intimidation). As such, you are not entitled to any such money back.

As for not paying your taxes...that is a choice you can make too. Plenty of people don't pay income taxes at all. Oddly enough...those are the same people that want me to pay for something else for them.....

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Both when you use it directly (which I have yet to do with a stealth bomber, unless Civ II counts) and when you indirectly benefit from a larger and healthier (thus cheaper and more productive) labor and technical pool.

As for taxes: You tax people with money; taxing people with no money tends to build deficits (not that it stopped Reagan, of course). If I can pay taxes for an Iraq invasion illegal under international law simply because a majority of our elected representatives voted for it, you can pay taxes for a perfectly constitutional healthcare bill a majority of those same representatives voted for as well.

Meh. A lot of folks would like to pick and choose what taxes they do and don't pay and each thing on which those taxes are spent. Of course, if every government expenditure without unanimous popular approval were unconstitutional I'd have gone to the SCOTUS when I was "forced" to subsidize SUVs for people who didn't need my help buying expensive, global warming, foreign oil dependent and unsafe road hogs. As the Republicans will remind us all when they have another legislative majority, if you don't like the law you change it, not get a judge to illegally annul it.
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Federal judge in Va. strikes down health care law - - 13/12/2010 05:21:37 PM 1029 Views
*yawn* - 13/12/2010 05:46:58 PM 690 Views
Another step closer to SCOTUS.....and that will be 5-4 decision in favor of repeal! *NM* - 13/12/2010 05:55:54 PM 268 Views
It may very well end up that way. *NM* - 13/12/2010 07:09:36 PM 303 Views
So riddle me this... - 13/12/2010 07:23:14 PM 680 Views
He's not "making his own law", just denying the government the ability to..... - 13/12/2010 08:06:48 PM 643 Views
That wasn't my question. - 13/12/2010 09:10:39 PM 747 Views
I get what you're saying... - 13/12/2010 11:30:13 PM 740 Views
Re: I get what you're saying... - 14/12/2010 01:34:13 AM 768 Views
*heh* - 14/12/2010 04:01:35 PM 685 Views
That's not all they're saying, though. - 14/12/2010 01:42:27 AM 630 Views
At least in my mind.... - 14/12/2010 04:10:38 PM 650 Views
Agreed; when do I get a refund for my share of the B2 bomber? - 14/12/2010 04:40:25 AM 679 Views
But see...you are using the B2 bomber. - 14/12/2010 03:59:27 PM 610 Views
Much as you are using the healthcare system. - 14/12/2010 05:55:40 PM 730 Views
*nods* - 14/12/2010 06:09:42 PM 703 Views
Re: So riddle me this... - 14/12/2010 02:51:35 AM 654 Views
It's judicial review - 14/12/2010 02:47:43 PM 698 Views
Re: It's judicial review - 14/12/2010 03:27:28 PM 677 Views
Re: It's judicial review - 15/12/2010 05:35:17 PM 773 Views
I really don't understand why people defend the forced purchase aspect - 13/12/2010 08:22:03 PM 719 Views
This analogy no doubt has its flaws too, but I was just reminded of it... - 13/12/2010 08:52:31 PM 730 Views
That's precisely the logic, yes. - 14/12/2010 04:31:44 AM 692 Views
This judge... - 13/12/2010 11:26:09 PM 728 Views
there is a major problem with this.. - 14/12/2010 01:29:41 AM 693 Views
Bad analogy..... - 14/12/2010 02:57:28 AM 646 Views
Re: Bad analogy..... - 14/12/2010 03:23:31 AM 661 Views
Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... - 14/12/2010 03:42:26 AM 642 Views
Re: Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... - 14/12/2010 04:53:39 AM 662 Views
Just to note.... - 14/12/2010 06:11:57 PM 661 Views
Re: Just to note.... - 14/12/2010 06:44:54 PM 644 Views
Re: Just to note.... - 14/12/2010 08:32:46 PM 649 Views
I'll excerpt some relevant passages, but the full article is in the link. - 14/12/2010 02:10:48 PM 795 Views
In other words there may be a painful silver lining. - 14/12/2010 07:46:38 PM 574 Views
Update: the judge's decision is basically nonsense. - 14/12/2010 08:04:27 PM 896 Views

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