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Just so you don't think I'm ignoring this: Joel Send a noteboard - 25/11/2010 01:25:27 PM
Unfortunately, "BECAUSE THEY'RE EVIL" is not valid reasoning in the real world.


Sadly, it often appears to be.

I do remember reading an article in the New York Times a year ago or so (could be four weeks or five years) on the Chinese government cracking down on homosexual nightclubs. I can't find it, but when searching for it I found this little tidbit from Kristof.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/29/world/china-using-electrodes-to-cure-homosexuals.html

I do wish I could find that article, just to know if I'm remembering it correctly. I'd also find it amusing to talk about the backwardness of China, considering a large US State had an anti-sodomy (read: anti-homosexuality) law on its books as recently as ~8 years ago (Lawrence v Texas) and which was upheld by the supreme court back in the 80's.

I fly the liberal flag as defiantly as anyone, heck, I briefly did environmental canvassing with the main litigant in the Hopwood Case (total female dog, got our office manager fired out of spite and perhaps jealousy, and went to FSU after the case was won anyway). I'm QUITE familiar with Lawrence v. Texas; since my mother retired from the Office of the Texas Atty. General, perhaps it was inevitable (though she never discussed that or any other case with me, just for the record). Anti-sodomy laws (not just in TX, ours just provided the test case invalidating all of them) applied to everyone, but were only ENFORCED against homosexuals (even that ceased decades ago; Lawrence v. TX was an attempt to reinstate enforcement, and failed spectacularly, as it should). I say that to provide context to the following: Comparing oppression in China with oppression in America, Texas or anywhere else is rather absurd. An antiquated law that was seldom enforced, and struck down the moment TX tried, is hardly on par with electroshocking people into heterosexuality. How sad that that must be explained to anyone.... :[
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UN votes to allow discrimination against sexual minorities (i.e. homosexuals) - 24/11/2010 02:11:44 AM 1054 Views
Pretty appalling, but also rather unsurprising on who voted which way. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:32:37 AM 323 Views
Some surprises, though. - 24/11/2010 02:52:17 AM 836 Views
I agree about South Africa - they have legal gay marriage! - 24/11/2010 11:04:10 AM 717 Views
Also, Bhutan? Wtf? And couldn't Russia abstain at least? *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:40:17 PM 351 Views
Hehehe, not surprised about India's vote - 24/11/2010 07:03:12 PM 745 Views
I was surprised to see China there. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:06:12 AM 299 Views
Could have been a message of solidarity with its buddies - 24/11/2010 07:06:22 PM 717 Views
Why? Their exemplary record on Civil Rights? - 24/11/2010 08:08:57 PM 729 Views
When you return from vacationing in the land of False Dichotomy, let me know. - 24/11/2010 11:36:08 PM 601 Views
Re: Haha. - 24/11/2010 11:57:34 PM 848 Views
Oh yes, acceptance of homosexuality is new everywhere. - 25/11/2010 12:52:16 AM 757 Views
Just so you don't think I'm ignoring this: - 25/11/2010 01:25:27 PM 849 Views
Re: Oh yeah. - 25/11/2010 12:13:28 AM 637 Views
Very sad if not a shock. Democracy doesn't work people! - 24/11/2010 11:23:42 AM 740 Views
The Law and Justice isn't in power anymore on any level, remember? - 24/11/2010 02:29:41 PM 772 Views
No - 24/11/2010 02:37:30 PM 827 Views
Very simplistic generalisation here, perhaps you should correct it *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:08:54 PM 415 Views
He said "tend to", not "are". *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:11:47 PM 435 Views
It is correct, thank you for your concern though *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:58:46 PM 305 Views
I disagree - 24/11/2010 08:10:11 PM 645 Views
Then you are wrong - 24/11/2010 08:19:51 PM 638 Views
Am I wrong, or are you? - 24/11/2010 08:28:26 PM 762 Views
You are - 24/11/2010 08:41:35 PM 601 Views
You did not read my post completely - 24/11/2010 08:47:07 PM 727 Views
I did - 24/11/2010 08:56:39 PM 679 Views
Really now, what kind of exchange is this? - 24/11/2010 09:35:55 PM 677 Views
A pointless one - it finished as it started. *NM* - 24/11/2010 10:00:37 PM 324 Views
How can such tiny stupid cow states have the same amount of votes we do? Disgusting. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:50:10 PM 326 Views
Eh, whatever. Most of africa and asia voted to kill people. - 24/11/2010 06:09:33 PM 688 Views
Most of the nations might leave the UN in that case *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:13:38 PM 352 Views
Ah, the John Foster Dulles approach to democracy. - 24/11/2010 08:13:11 PM 734 Views
Pretty sad, and surprising that so many nations abstained when they could've swung the vote. - 24/11/2010 08:34:58 PM 758 Views
Do you ever get tired of your hyperbole? - 24/11/2010 09:48:21 PM 740 Views
The interesting part - 24/11/2010 10:05:27 PM 1016 Views

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