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Do you ever get tired of your hyperbole? Legolas Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 09:48:21 PM
I might be able to excuse the absent representatives, who could (though I doubt it) be unaware that the amendment had been proposed, or that the vote would be that day. It's quite possible that those who desired it played a scheduling game to make sure the vote came up when the most favorable quorum was present. Looking at the list it might not have made a difference, but to abstain while present for a vote like this is cowardly.

I agree about the absent countries, looking at that list I get the strong impression that the "absent" nations were actually just abstaining in a subtler way. Turkey, Albania and a number of Oceanian countries in particular - those are countries that would be expected to follow the lead of the EU in the former two cases and the US in the latter, but don't want to take a position that could be seen as pro-homosexuality, and so they made sure they weren't there, so that the offense to Europe/the US would be smaller than if they had actually abstained.

The countries that did abstain are in similar positions, but evidently less afraid to annoy their allies. Seems to me that the large majority of both the abstainers and the absent countries would've voted with the majority if they had been forced to vote, so perhaps it's for the best they abstained instead and made it look as if it was close. :P
I can't help it though, I find the list of major nations voting for and against this ironic given how much crap many of those who voted against it take for opposing those who voted for it. The US is evil for waging that unjust Vietnam war, but guess where each of those nations aligned. It's also evil for supporting Israel despite their brutality, as well as opposing North Korea and Irans nuclear weapons programs, but guess where each of those nations came down on this issue. This is the kind of crap I mean when I say the world may not LIKE American hegemony, but when it's replaced by Chinese hegemony, with global complicity, they're going to miss our sorry butts. Much good may it do them.

I'm sure there are people in North Korea who think the US is evil for opposing North Korea's nuclear weapons programs. Of course, North Koreans don't generally have internet, so I'm unsure where you would've encountered any such people. :P Seriously though, the future is not some new Cold War between China and the US, there will be more than two sides, and people criticizing the US does not mean they want Chinese hegemony. Chill out already.

Oh, and I hereby absolve you of any obligation you may feel to reply, at least to this paragraph (the bit above about the abstaining might be a productive discussion, but I rather doubt this bit would be :P ).
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UN votes to allow discrimination against sexual minorities (i.e. homosexuals) - 24/11/2010 02:11:44 AM 1053 Views
Pretty appalling, but also rather unsurprising on who voted which way. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:32:37 AM 323 Views
Some surprises, though. - 24/11/2010 02:52:17 AM 836 Views
I agree about South Africa - they have legal gay marriage! - 24/11/2010 11:04:10 AM 716 Views
Also, Bhutan? Wtf? And couldn't Russia abstain at least? *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:40:17 PM 350 Views
Hehehe, not surprised about India's vote - 24/11/2010 07:03:12 PM 745 Views
I was surprised to see China there. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:06:12 AM 298 Views
Could have been a message of solidarity with its buddies - 24/11/2010 07:06:22 PM 717 Views
Why? Their exemplary record on Civil Rights? - 24/11/2010 08:08:57 PM 729 Views
When you return from vacationing in the land of False Dichotomy, let me know. - 24/11/2010 11:36:08 PM 600 Views
Re: Haha. - 24/11/2010 11:57:34 PM 848 Views
Oh yes, acceptance of homosexuality is new everywhere. - 25/11/2010 12:52:16 AM 757 Views
Just so you don't think I'm ignoring this: - 25/11/2010 01:25:27 PM 848 Views
Re: Oh yeah. - 25/11/2010 12:13:28 AM 637 Views
Very sad if not a shock. Democracy doesn't work people! - 24/11/2010 11:23:42 AM 740 Views
The Law and Justice isn't in power anymore on any level, remember? - 24/11/2010 02:29:41 PM 772 Views
No - 24/11/2010 02:37:30 PM 827 Views
Very simplistic generalisation here, perhaps you should correct it *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:08:54 PM 415 Views
He said "tend to", not "are". *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:11:47 PM 435 Views
It is correct, thank you for your concern though *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:58:46 PM 305 Views
I disagree - 24/11/2010 08:10:11 PM 645 Views
Then you are wrong - 24/11/2010 08:19:51 PM 638 Views
Am I wrong, or are you? - 24/11/2010 08:28:26 PM 762 Views
You are - 24/11/2010 08:41:35 PM 601 Views
You did not read my post completely - 24/11/2010 08:47:07 PM 727 Views
I did - 24/11/2010 08:56:39 PM 679 Views
Really now, what kind of exchange is this? - 24/11/2010 09:35:55 PM 677 Views
A pointless one - it finished as it started. *NM* - 24/11/2010 10:00:37 PM 324 Views
How can such tiny stupid cow states have the same amount of votes we do? Disgusting. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:50:10 PM 325 Views
Eh, whatever. Most of africa and asia voted to kill people. - 24/11/2010 06:09:33 PM 687 Views
Most of the nations might leave the UN in that case *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:13:38 PM 352 Views
Ah, the John Foster Dulles approach to democracy. - 24/11/2010 08:13:11 PM 734 Views
Pretty sad, and surprising that so many nations abstained when they could've swung the vote. - 24/11/2010 08:34:58 PM 757 Views
Do you ever get tired of your hyperbole? - 24/11/2010 09:48:21 PM 740 Views
The interesting part - 24/11/2010 10:05:27 PM 1016 Views

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