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I'm glad your ex wasn't there in 1970 then. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 01:10:02 AM
The border between North and South Korea has been bad since the war went on hold. My ex-husband was stationed there for a year in 1993. I could not go with him because his base was too close to the DMZ so he had to leave me and our six month old daughter behind.

It was while he was there that I learned that as recent as 1970 there had been US soldiers killed by North Korean troops. I was not surprised by today’s event. The North gets more volatile whenever there is a change of power and I believe that Kim Jung Il has been having health issues and that his son is taking over?

While my ex was over there Kim Il Sung left power and at that time Kim Jung Il took over. There was a very comprehensive article in Time magazine about the measures the South has taken to slow an invasion from the North. To this day there are bridges and tunnels rigged with explosives that they can set off to block main road ways.

I think it is very sad that this happened and that there was a loss of life. I was able to spend some time in South Korea. It’s the only place I have ever been outside of the US. I’m hoping that we can go another forty years without something like this happening again.

And pray you won't have children or grandchildren there in 2050 if accepting the killing in 1970 and this week is acceptable provided there's no more of it until then. Trouble is, North Korea's pretty much been in famine conditions since about the time your ex WAS there, largely because they've committed themselves to taking rather than producing what they need. That can't continue indefinitely, and even if it could, a confrontation between the US (existing declining superpower) and China (aspiring ascendant superpower) is all but certain.

That's what all the credit imbalances and outsourcing is really about: We don't help matters by trying to subsist on a service economy dependent on spending money we must borrow because we no longer produce wealth, but, ultimately, it's really just a symptom of a larger shift in global power. That shift threatens dire consequences, not just for South Korea, but for Japan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia and possibly even Australia. Even if the US would accept that, even if we turned our backs on Japanese allies with no more than a token military thanks to the constitution we wrote them, Britains obligations to Commonwealth nations would still spell global war in the end.

I don't relish war, but if war with North Korea and then China is delayed forty years, start teaching your children Mandarin now, because war WILL come, and if it comes in forty years, we will get our heads handed to us. Frankly, I think estimating a delay of half that time would be generous.

Incidentally, according to the Guardian articles, the destruction of the South Korean ship earlier this week is thought to be an North Korean attempt to shore up his sons political position preparatory to a power transition. Why it's acceptable for North Korea to slaughter people in other countries just to smooth a power transfer I'm not sure.
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