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There's not going to be any all-out conflict Variant Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 12:56:44 AM
The underlying reality on the peninsula is that war makes no sense. Both sides know it beyond dispute. Here’s what happens if war breaks out: half of South Korea’s population is within 50 miles of North Korea’s arsenal of almost 12,000 artillery guns and rockets. Those weapons are more than sufficient to destroy much of what South Korea has created in over half a century. As for North Korea, a U.S. air and missile attack would destroy what’s left of that country and leave its dictatorship in want of a home. Thus, war would destroy both sides, and neither side can afford war.

American political leaders (not to mention more than a few posters here) wanting to look tough will undoubtedly propose some U.S. military actions, but fortunately for them, they won't get their way. Any game of chicken will have to be up to our South Korean allies. It's South Korea's decision whether there will be an all out conflict, and they do not want an all-out conflict.

Beyond question, Pyongyang knows all this. So when they ratchet up the danger level, they’re doing it for some other reason. Explanation No. 1 is that the shooting is part of Pyongyang’s succession problems. The Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Il is in poor health and fading. It appears that he has jumped over his second son and intends to empower his third son instead. This third son, Kim Jong-Un, has some exalted military title and he may be ordering the high-wire military actions to show how tough he is.

Explanation No. 2. Asia experts think that Pyongyang is taking these actions as the only way it knows of getting our full attention. And what they think Pyongyang wants is to resume the usual negotiations—our concerns regarding their nuclear program and their desires to have more economic assistance. In fact, that has been the message the North Koreans have provided quietly during several recent visits by private American groups. From their point of view and from their experiences, Washington pays attention to them only when the warning flags go up.
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North Korea attacks South Korea and no one mentions it? - 23/11/2010 10:56:03 AM 1360 Views
"Oh God, Oh God, we are all going to die?" - 23/11/2010 11:09:30 AM 1147 Views
Yup, but the day Beijing decides they're better off not intervening the Appeasers look very dumb. - 23/11/2010 11:23:35 AM 1000 Views
The appeasers look very dumb at this point regardless. - 23/11/2010 04:11:41 PM 910 Views
yes, because we want to fight *ANOTHER* proxy war with china *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:29:18 PM 514 Views
"Wanting" has nothing to do with it. There are few alternatives. - 23/11/2010 04:50:02 PM 1048 Views
Honestly, it COULD go either way. - 23/11/2010 05:14:18 PM 1184 Views
China's relations with North Korea are also worsening, though. - 25/11/2010 05:48:01 PM 1339 Views
What Tom said. - 23/11/2010 05:15:31 PM 992 Views
I figured someone else would post it *NM* - 23/11/2010 11:16:44 AM 452 Views
You know I like to sleep in, remember? - 23/11/2010 11:20:33 AM 985 Views
Agreed - 23/11/2010 02:07:30 PM 1100 Views
I think most Americans are asleep until the sun rises here - 23/11/2010 11:32:28 AM 1004 Views
That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers - 23/11/2010 11:40:33 AM 988 Views
Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers - 23/11/2010 11:46:03 AM 1033 Views
Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers - 23/11/2010 11:57:51 AM 916 Views
The really sad part is, that along with everything else worthwhile in the British Empire... - 25/11/2010 09:49:00 AM 1158 Views
you know what they say - 25/11/2010 10:34:30 AM 1014 Views
Never send an Englishman to do a man's work? - 25/11/2010 09:06:22 PM 1018 Views
I actually had no clue. - 23/11/2010 01:14:20 PM 1000 Views
Re: I actually had no clue. - 23/11/2010 01:15:10 PM 866 Views
Re: I actually had no clue. - 23/11/2010 04:32:17 PM 974 Views
Re: I actually had no clue. - 23/11/2010 04:36:59 PM 934 Views
Honestly, - 23/11/2010 02:36:13 PM 909 Views
you know the world doesn't exist until america wakes up in the morning, right? *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:27:27 PM 477 Views
I had an inkling. *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:37:37 PM 519 Views
OK, have had time to read it, and someone needs to fact check a very important part of that article. - 23/11/2010 04:52:02 PM 1081 Views
Fact checking: - 23/11/2010 08:38:57 PM 991 Views
The term "truce" used in a different Guardian article seems better. - 23/11/2010 09:20:19 PM 916 Views
my two bits - 23/11/2010 10:51:51 PM 1048 Views
I'm glad your ex wasn't there in 1970 then. - 24/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 1017 Views
Well - 23/11/2010 05:24:02 PM 1024 Views
There's not going to be any all-out conflict - 24/11/2010 12:56:44 AM 1155 Views
They're getting aid from South Korea now, and killing them anyway. - 24/11/2010 01:20:33 AM 1100 Views
No kidding, that's been going on for quite some time. - 24/11/2010 02:49:50 AM 975 Views
That is the crux of it, I suppose. - 24/11/2010 03:02:40 PM 1049 Views
~shrugs~ SK has lived with this a long time, and will continue to do so. - 24/11/2010 10:26:44 PM 1028 Views
Parts of it have; some South Koreans stopped living with it a few days ago. - 25/11/2010 01:48:02 PM 1628 Views
They won't be the last. - 02/12/2010 12:55:20 AM 1202 Views
Re: North Korea attacks South Korea and no one mentions it? - 24/11/2010 01:50:11 AM 937 Views

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