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Same reason we don't give all our allies (especially neighbors) our best hardware. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 07:43:54 PM
Sinking the South Korean ship earlier this year was a much larger incident than this, so nothing will happen. Also i don't think that China has as much to say regarding the North Korean stance to the south, as some people think.

I (emphasis I) think that China just want to keep NK as a buffert zone, regardless of their leadership. If China really supported NK then why doesn't they export their latest, or even "next" latest military designs to NK. China does posses some military tech that would give SK a headache.

Or do you think China trusts Kim anymore than we do? That Kim is any less likely to try extorting them if he thinks he can get away with it? I think China is playing an incredibly dangerous game with a very unstable personality; they don't want to let him get so far away they can't control him (and North Korea would collapse in a month without every kind of aid you can think of coming from China, so they CAN control him if they so desire) but they don't want to appear so close to him they're seen as complicit in his behavior. That's what this whole absurdity about six party talks is about, the conceit that China can't keep North Korea in line, but they'll listen to Russia, South Korea and Japan. The first and the last of those nations fought a war over control of Korea a century ago, and, of course, South Korea has been in armed conflict with North Korea for about half the time since, so I really don't think they can convince North Korea if the superpower propping them up can't.

Tom's right, IMHO, but I've long held that opinion: North Korea isn't there just to provide China a proxy, it's there to antagonize and possibly even nuke Chinas enemies, get obliterated by the retaliation and leave China to go her merry way untouched.
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North Korea attacks South Korea and no one mentions it? - 23/11/2010 10:56:03 AM 1360 Views
"Oh God, Oh God, we are all going to die?" - 23/11/2010 11:09:30 AM 1147 Views
Yup, but the day Beijing decides they're better off not intervening the Appeasers look very dumb. - 23/11/2010 11:23:35 AM 1000 Views
The appeasers look very dumb at this point regardless. - 23/11/2010 04:11:41 PM 910 Views
yes, because we want to fight *ANOTHER* proxy war with china *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:29:18 PM 514 Views
"Wanting" has nothing to do with it. There are few alternatives. - 23/11/2010 04:50:02 PM 1048 Views
Honestly, it COULD go either way. - 23/11/2010 05:14:18 PM 1184 Views
China's relations with North Korea are also worsening, though. - 25/11/2010 05:48:01 PM 1339 Views
What Tom said. - 23/11/2010 05:15:31 PM 992 Views
I figured someone else would post it *NM* - 23/11/2010 11:16:44 AM 452 Views
You know I like to sleep in, remember? - 23/11/2010 11:20:33 AM 985 Views
Agreed - 23/11/2010 02:07:30 PM 1100 Views
I think most Americans are asleep until the sun rises here - 23/11/2010 11:32:28 AM 1004 Views
That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers - 23/11/2010 11:40:33 AM 988 Views
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Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers - 23/11/2010 11:57:51 AM 916 Views
The really sad part is, that along with everything else worthwhile in the British Empire... - 25/11/2010 09:49:00 AM 1158 Views
you know what they say - 25/11/2010 10:34:30 AM 1014 Views
Never send an Englishman to do a man's work? - 25/11/2010 09:06:22 PM 1018 Views
I actually had no clue. - 23/11/2010 01:14:20 PM 1001 Views
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Honestly, - 23/11/2010 02:36:13 PM 909 Views
you know the world doesn't exist until america wakes up in the morning, right? *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:27:27 PM 477 Views
I had an inkling. *NM* - 23/11/2010 04:37:37 PM 519 Views
OK, have had time to read it, and someone needs to fact check a very important part of that article. - 23/11/2010 04:52:02 PM 1081 Views
Fact checking: - 23/11/2010 08:38:57 PM 991 Views
The term "truce" used in a different Guardian article seems better. - 23/11/2010 09:20:19 PM 916 Views
my two bits - 23/11/2010 10:51:51 PM 1048 Views
I'm glad your ex wasn't there in 1970 then. - 24/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 1017 Views
Well - 23/11/2010 05:24:02 PM 1024 Views
Same reason we don't give all our allies (especially neighbors) our best hardware. - 23/11/2010 07:43:54 PM 1001 Views
There's not going to be any all-out conflict - 24/11/2010 12:56:44 AM 1155 Views
They're getting aid from South Korea now, and killing them anyway. - 24/11/2010 01:20:33 AM 1100 Views
No kidding, that's been going on for quite some time. - 24/11/2010 02:49:50 AM 975 Views
That is the crux of it, I suppose. - 24/11/2010 03:02:40 PM 1049 Views
~shrugs~ SK has lived with this a long time, and will continue to do so. - 24/11/2010 10:26:44 PM 1029 Views
Parts of it have; some South Koreans stopped living with it a few days ago. - 25/11/2010 01:48:02 PM 1628 Views
They won't be the last. - 02/12/2010 12:55:20 AM 1202 Views
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